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Old 02-28-2020, 11:09 AM
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About the siege of Stalingrad. I think he used a Mosin-Nagant. Wasn't 50mm, that's for sure.
yes. Excellent movie.

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Old 02-28-2020, 11:14 AM
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Stalin did not become a war leader until he stepped back and let his capable generals run the fighting. Purging his generals was a huge mistake.

Churchill was a leader who supported his military professionals, as did FDR.
Russia's strategy was very simple and effective. They sent waves of men to be killed. In the above mentioned movie it showed a seargant telling a group of new soldiers that he had one gun for every 10 soldiers. He said to advance in a row and as the front man was shot to grab the gun and commence firing. if anybody retreated they were shot with machine guns set up to do that task alone.

Stalin a great war leader....hmmm... well, he was successful. Without his soldiers we would have had a real problem in Europe.
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Old 02-28-2020, 11:24 AM
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The appeal of the .50 BMG goes beyond just military and benchrest shooters. Many shoot the .50 "just once" to try it. It's a common misconception that .50 BMG has terrible recoil. Modern .50s usually weigh between 25 and 40 pounds and have very effective muzzlebrakes. These two factors together reduce the recoil to something more akin to the push from a 12-gauge shotgun than the hard recoil you might expect from a .300 Winchester Magnum in a light hunting rifle.

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The big muzzlebrakes work well, but they produce an extremely loud report and an area of overpressure blast. Once a shooter has had a visceral taste of what it's like to send a 650-grain bullet hundreds or thousands of yards downrange and see it smash into a target, his appetite has been whetted and he must own one. If you find yourself in this position, what are your options?

It used to be that the price of admission to the .50 BMG club was a rifle starting at about $5,000. In the last 10 years there has been an explosion in the numbers of .50 BMG options under $3,500. Many of these rifles have simplified frame construction or are built like tube guns, and many are single-shot bolt actions.

Sounds clever how they control the recoil.
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Just planning on shooting some squirrels.
Hope you’re not planning on having anything left to eat.
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Enemy at the Gates was a good movie, but the book was way better. The movies was from one chapter of the book.

Carlos Hathcock was a highly accomplished marine sniper in Vietnam. He made a one shot kill with a fifty cal. of some description. I think it was a modified Browning machine gun. I expect that googling Carlos Hathcock would turn up lots of information. The snipers of his era had a much tougher job than today. Today there are apps to take care of the many calculations involved with thousand yard plus marksmanship. The calculations involve everything from density altitude to the rotation of the Earth.
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Hope you’re not planning on having anything left to eat.
I once shot a wabbit with a .308.... 5 foot diameter splatter on the bush behind it....one leg and a cotton tail. That was all ....
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here is one way to fire a 50 cal

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I perused Carlos’ Wiki and my memory was correct. He modified an M2 Browning .50 caliber and mounted an 8 power scope. He used this for the longest confirmed kill at 2,500 yards. His issue rifle, however, was a Model 70 in 30.06. He had a confirmed 98 kills, but the actual number was an estimated 300 to 400.

Many people don’t understand that marksmanship is only a portion of the skill required to do the kind of work that the Gunny accomplished. Much of it is about camouflage and moving on the ground undetected to get in range. This means being perfectly still or moving inch by inch on the ground for hours or even days, crapping in his pants if necessary.
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Russia's strategy was very simple and effective. They sent waves of men to be killed. In the above mentioned movie it showed a seargant telling a group of new soldiers that he had one gun for every 10 soldiers. He said to advance in a row and as the front man was shot to grab the gun and commence firing. if anybody retreated they were shot with machine guns set up to do that task alone.

Stalin a great war leader....hmmm... well, he was successful. Without his soldiers we would have had a real problem in Europe.


I am not a fan of Stalin. I think the guy was sick emotionally. Fundamentally evil people do exist in this world unfortunately. Yet he was able enough to direct breaking the back of the German army.

The Germans knew they were probably finished in the fall of 1941. Russia has always possessed the best intelligence system In the world.

Personally I believe Stalin lured them deep into Russia using their own propaganda that Russians where a pushover. Remember he just fed enough replacement troops into Stalingrad to hold on and look weak. Simular tactics where used before Moscow. He even left the road open to get them there.

He manipulated things so they would be at certain places at certain times. Where their supply lines and weapons where not of much use and the German troops where hungry and very cold out in the open. Then he slammed into them with a well equipped and fed forces that just about destroyed them.

Artillery was the great killer of soldiers in wars. He made sure they had far more than the Germans plus the first rocket launchers of sufficient quantity.

What was left of the German center front retreated in almost panic for a couple of hundred miles before Moscow. It took a maximum effort to establish another front line and the Germans where not even certain they could.

The mass of Studebaker trucks gave the Russians a mobility that the Germans just did not have. Plus the Germans had very limited fuel where the Russian army had all they wanted.

Anyways I suspect Stalin remained very functional where Hitler probably fell into heavy drug usage as the war progressed.
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Yes, I believe Stalin was a very avid reader of the writings of Sun Tzu.
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here is one way to fire a 50 cal

Very effective, but not exactly the same as the way that Gunny Hathcock modified and deployed it for a different purpose.
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Enemy at the Gates was a good movie
Surprisingly, or not, the biggest complaint the russians had about the film was about some russian soldiers igniting their farts! (remember?)
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Very effective, but not exactly the same as the way that Gunny Hathcock modified and deployed it for a different purpose.
In your mind, what led you to believe that that post was in any way about gunny?
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When Russia eventually opened it's military archives for that period There were many suprises.

At the gates was an American scripted movie. I found a war movie written by Germans that was very entertaining. But still again only a movie. U boat was well done. Or perhaps it was called the boat. You might still find it on Utube. Look for the one dubbed in English. It really has it's moments.

Late correction Use das boot to get it up on Utube. I seldom recommend a film. Using the boat does not work. The overall quality of this film is pretty good. Well written and acted I thought.

It is too bad this collection of people did not do other war movies in my opinion. Or if they did I am unaware of them. Even an early Mercedes close to the opening with quite the bar scene.

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Old 02-29-2020, 03:07 PM
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"Das boot" I believe. Yes, good movie!

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