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Old 07-11-2020, 09:59 PM
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:27 PM
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Extensive testing in Spain has pretty much eliminated the concept of herd immunity unfortunately. Only about five percent of their population has developed antibodies to the virus. Plus how long they even persist is unknown.

Americans should batten down the hatches as the fall and winter approach. We in Canada have extended the wage substitution again until December yesterday.

Most of the latest information developed on the virus does not favor the situation. The gamble on how the virus situation is being dealt with now. May turn out to have been ultra foolish to the extreme. No way to be absolutely certain yet.

If so people should be starting to think about the economic factors involved. If a certain trend starts to emerge. At some point the general public will have to be informed about certain oddities with this virus.

I can only hope they have been established or the effort to identify them is well underway. We are seeing some indications in our region that some outside people are hedging their longer term bets on the situation.

They are actually making certain they can get into our virus free region if the need occurs. To do this is getting harder and harder by the week. If the ones that have purchased houses here so far. Sell their primary residence where they are. Then comply with the strict quarantine rules now in effect. Being heavy supervised quarinteen. Currently they can get in. I suspect this may even be stopped all too soon. I think we are rapidly heading towards nobody gets into our four provinces. Or I can see even quarantine camps being set up to lower the costs of pokicing the few that are allowed to get in. We are deadly serious and have crash teams to deal instantly with any minor outbreaks.

We have elected officials and health people that have been really on the ball since the very start. In our four adjoining Canadian provinces that are externally sealed. On our external borders of the group. The virus has raged outside of them. Their drop in case numbers have less to do with current practices than other factors. There is no longer any doubt that in this large region we are going to do whatever is required to keep this virus out. Since we eliminated the original core cases months ago it has been pretty settled in the region. Talk is now turning to the actual economy.

I was asked by the brother in law why I did not buy several expensive items in the last while. Especially the excavator. I simply told him I suspect this is far from over and prices might fall in the bad areas that in reality could be upcoming in the majority of north America. I can have it shipped into our region. As they do not seem to know what they are doing with the virus.

If they are faced with the true cost of fighting it this late. It will be an economic disaster. We think there is a possibility they will yet have to really fight it. We have learnt even one case is one too many. The rest of north America seems clueless in comparison unfortunately.

We are asked now how we do things. They obviously do not get it with their half assed attempts. They are little more than a joke when they try to duplicate them.

Yet some people outside our large virus free area are obviously starting to figure out some things at the individual level. Our housing re sales cannot meet demand is an obvious clue.

I especially like the aspect of opening up by other areas when we in reality are further closing down ours. In our fifty thousand square mile area. Not internally but from external influences. For example a truck driver was allowed to bring a load in as long as he stayed in the cab of the truck for months now. He would need a porta potty in the truck and food for sure. As of last week that is being further tightened up.

We use our police forces in many ways than what they used to do. They have done really well at border sealing. I tested a sealed border point myself. At the time I could have been fined. For unreasonable travel attempts internaly. I just wanted to see just how well it was being done. I landed up even getting a police escort. Until I was well back inside our province at the time. At that time all four provinces had individual sealed borders. I like people and hope a vaccine can be developed. Otherwise America and parts of Canada may land up between a rock and a hard place. That is a possible risk that the chances even if small are just not worth risking it.

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Old 07-15-2020, 01:17 PM
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:58 PM
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California tops New York as state worst hit by coronavirus . . . California on Wednesday overtook New York, the original epicenter of the U.S. novel coronavirus outbreak, as the worst-hit state for cases, according to a Reuters tally of county data. Total cases in the most populous U.S. state rose by 12,112 on Wednesday to a total of more than 421,000, the biggest single-day increase since the pandemic started. California deaths also set a one-day record, rising by 159. New York has recorded by far the most deaths of any U.S. state at more than 32,000 with California in fourth place with over 8,000 deaths. If California were a country, it would rank fifth in the world for total coronavirus cases behind only the United States, Brazil, India and Russia. Reuters
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Old 07-24-2020, 02:49 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/07/texas-says-new-coronavirus-cases-jumped-by-more-than-10000-for-the-first-time.html

Still waiting for this whole coronavirus thing to "just sort of go away by April" like Trump said. Also wasn't this supposed to be a liberal inner city problem? WTF Texas?
Maybe move to California. They are averaging only 9,700 new cases per day over the last seven days.
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Old 07-26-2020, 05:40 PM
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Masks where never mandatory here as the virus was being wiped out. As of the end of July here. They are to become compulsory even though we have no virus in circulation.

There are several indications including the mask order by our regional authorities. The concept of a major issue may present in the fall. They have been far too right since this started to really underestimate what they think. Especially Americans and a lot of Canadians are fed propaganda and limited information. This is not the case here.

From day one they seemed to have really been doing the job that should have been done in the remainder of Canada and all the American states.

The problem I see is what are we going to do if other places do not smarten up. Naturally our grouping of four provinces external border has to remain sealed. For how long we wonder? The province just outside the common external border is the worse place in Canada. Their regional leadership could almost be classified as criminal.

What they are not doing is producing terrible results. It is like they are playing games. Something like the American administration. We know it will probably wane there yet come back with a real vengeance. .It cycles as there is no herd immunity worth discussion.

Our regional officials go on the radio for about 30 minutes each weekday. To keep us well and accurately informed. What hurts is they think on outside areas this virus may just be their new normal.

It hurts because our regional officials have been far too accurate from day one of this virus. We have also been told they are going to do whatever is required in what is to come. They seem so certain it is disturbing. Not in an alarming fashion yet their message is clear.

Disturbing enough that the persons living in areas that have the virus should make plans. Especially if older. You are running out of time to do this.

To me and common sense as well. The earlier you really start to fight it properly the cheaper it is to defeat it.

Current surveys indicate that far too many will not take the vaccine if one can be developed. That does not have serious or unknown side effects.

They claim with any seemingly workable vaccine. There would not be enough time to establish if longer term side effects are present with it. Before marketing it.

Again from the start our regional officials have said it may be very hard to impossible to develop a workable vaccine for this particular virus.

We do a risk reward type of approach to opening up functions. Even though we currently have no virus circulating. Getting tougher every week to get through our sealed borders as well.

Telling people to self quaranteen without seriously enforcing that they are does not work well enough. We found out through early experience. It just slows it down yet does not solve the problem. Last but not least I know of nowhere where the virus was. Is in the virus free shape we are in currently. We as a family have had zero chance of coming into contact with the virus so far.

Our four province area might be famous by the time next spring rolls around. I hope not as too many outside our area may suffer. Even our federal government does not mention how successful we have been. Real leadership would tell the others how to do it. We cannot as the media also does not mention it. Yet they are all too aware at the same time.

We had the same percentage of cases when we started to defeat it at the time. Except in the sixty square mile area we live in. That left the remaining almost fifty thousand square miles with it. Proving it can be beaten in a fairly short time. If you have either competent local governments or some competent body that tells them what has to be done if not. Not one that states all too often there is no problem. Until it verges on a disaster.

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