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Old 07-06-2021, 10:08 PM
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Thats cool. Refueling would be as messy as replacing a toner cartridge.

I know Georgia Pacific Savannah burns coal dust to generate power. They actually back feed the grid and make bank doing so.

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Old 07-08-2021, 10:04 AM
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Have you ever seen the massive exhaust tips on diesel pick-up trucks? They're so big because they mix outside air with the exhaust before discharging it That's because the exhaust gets so hot from the DPF burn-off that it'd burn off the truck's paint or anybody walking too close to the truck when it was parked and running.

There's a story about legendary NASCAR mechanic Smokey Yunick arguing with NASCAR inspectors about a gas tank of a car in the inspection bay being too big. Finally, Smokey had enough, threw the empty tank in the cockpit of car.. started the car up, and drove a half-mile back to his garage. (The car had plenty of gasoline in places they didn't find it.)
He apparently had huge fuel lines which carried a gallon or so effectively increasing his tank size beyond the rules allowance.
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:15 PM
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He apparently had huge fuel lines which carried a gallon or so effectively increasing his tank size beyond the rules allowance.
Or gasoline hidden inside the tubing of the frame/roll cage.
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Old 07-11-2021, 10:35 PM
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Probably both, though in his book I believe he said it was fuel lines.
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Old 07-11-2021, 11:19 PM
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Sure, like he's going to tell ALL his secrets!

I remember when Parnelli Jones, or maybe it was A.J. Foyt, got caught for an over sized fuel tank. Before the final inspection they'd use a floor jack to collapse the tank and after the inspection they'd use compressed air to pop it back. That was in the days before fuel cells of course.
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Old 07-12-2021, 08:09 AM
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Sure, like he's going to tell ALL his secrets!

I remember when Parnelli Jones, or maybe it was A.J. Foyt, got caught for an over sized fuel tank. Before the final inspection they'd use a floor jack to collapse the tank and after the inspection they'd use compressed air to pop it back. That was in the days before fuel cells of course.
Probably both got caught...I believe that may have been a common trick.
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Old 07-15-2021, 01:23 PM
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Thats cool. Refueling would be as messy as replacing a toner cartridge.

I know Georgia Pacific Savannah burns coal dust to generate power. They actually back feed the grid and make bank doing so.
So technically, *every* coal fired power plant burns coal powder. (or at least, all the ones I've seen - built between 1952 and 2012...) The coal (rocks) are conveyed into a set of pulverizers (large wheel things) that grind the coal into dust. That dust is carried by a "primary air" system into the burners, and there is a flame at the exit of the burner- inside the boiler itself.

Its done this way for combustion efficiency/heat rate. Those pulverizers are x00HP electric motors so I'm guessing we get enough 'more' heat from the dust to justify running them. My old 1300MW coal plant needed 100MW just to run its pulverizers and emissions control systems.

Are they dirty ? dirty as hell, and temperamental (you need to balance air flows, or there will be too much primary air, or too little - either way efficiency and emissions go off the charts...) and worst of all - those pulveriziers are where >50% of coal plant fires start - the pulverizer itself is fed rock-coal and 300*F primary air, if any dust leaks out, or concentration of sparks, the coal dust will ignite before it gets into the boiler.

The only people I know that burn coal rocks are blacksmiths at the John C. Campbell Folk School
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Old 07-15-2021, 01:54 PM
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Or gasoline hidden inside the tubing of the frame/roll cage.
Isn't this how Lotus engineered racing cars? Also, how some airplanes do?
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In 1964 I was a junior in high school and working part time in a service station. A private detective with an office in the community had a Chrysler turbine car and would park it at the service station to be washed by me. I had the chance to drive the car for a few miles one day. An experience I will never forget.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:20 PM
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Sure, like he's going to tell ALL his secrets!

I remember when Parnelli Jones, or maybe it was A.J. Foyt, got caught for an over sized fuel tank. Before the final inspection they'd use a floor jack to collapse the tank and after the inspection they'd use compressed air to pop it back. That was in the days before fuel cells of course.
Perhaps a subliminal connection to Parnelli Jones. I still recall the unusual day where he practically demolished the entire field at the ‘67 Indy500 in the STP turbine.

I forget, but they must’ve change the rules, because that car and ones like it were set to dominate.

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The house I grew up in, built in the 1920's, had a coal bin on the back. At some point, an oil furnace was installed and concrete was poured on the coal bin's dirt floor to make it a storage room.

My grandparents' house had a tiny fireplace, maybe about 9" deep, for burning coal to heat the house.
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Old 07-25-2021, 12:38 AM
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Not only in '67 but also in '68 the turbines dominated the Indianapolis track.

For the '69 year the governing body restricted the engines so drastically they were no longer competitive.

The turbines were never considered for any other racing format due to their slow acceleration response.

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