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Old 08-31-2021, 09:53 PM
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Mercedes EQS

Did see two new Mercedes S580's on the road today, both black. After seeing Leno's video today, if I had the dough, I would wait for the EQS. Looks like a very nice place to be in.

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Old 08-31-2021, 11:39 PM
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No, never heard of it.....why don't you have "the dough to buy one?" How much are they anyway??



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Old 09-01-2021, 12:52 PM
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It looks like a very nice car. I especially appreciated how quiet it is while driving in heavy traffic. Does anyone know the sticker price?
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Old 09-01-2021, 06:10 PM
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At least $100k.

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Old 09-01-2021, 09:35 PM
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Like both the Tesla and the Porsche Taycan, these are interesting cars. One of the main issues I believe is the fact that electric cars are TOO quiet. There have been numerous accounts of people not hearing an electric car driving next to them in traffic. If a driver doesn't actually hear a car next to them, they might be tempted to execute a sudden lane change for instance.



You have to admit, it is hard to miss a diesel powered mercedes benz in traffic.
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Old 09-02-2021, 12:00 AM
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Good grief. Cara are all very quiet. With the noise from the car I am in, even with the radio off, you can hear any car beside you. A semi or a big V8 sports car sure, but you are not going to hear any normal car.

You obviously do not drive a car.
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The dashboard alone screams "Dump me once my warranty expires!"...
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Old 09-02-2021, 04:49 PM
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Old 09-02-2021, 04:51 PM
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Like both the Tesla and the Porsche Taycan, these are interesting cars. One of the main issues I believe is the fact that electric cars are TOO quiet. There have been numerous accounts of people not hearing an electric car driving next to them in traffic. If a driver doesn't actually hear a car next to them, they might be tempted to execute a sudden lane change for instance.



You have to admit, it is hard to miss a diesel powered mercedes benz in traffic.
Pedestrians? Yeah. "Other drivers?" Nut-uh.......not even a problem...



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LOL ain't that the truth. I don't think they sell those monitors at WalMart. Better idea is a lease.
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The dashboard alone screams "Dump me once my warranty expires!"...
The Aston Martin Lagonda comes to mind.
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The purpose-built, high-end electrics from Germany and the US are going to cause big trouble for Tesla. "The Empire Strikes Back."

I'm somewhat of a tree-hugger. Frau Putzer and I are burning one gallon of gasoline per person per day, down from two gallons per person per day in 2005.

I still want 500+ miles of highway range and six-minute refueling (anywhere)... and a spare tire. So, my next car will be a non-hybrid, non-electric 330i or 530i. A 330i will get 40 MPG on the interstate.

By the time gas pumps are gone, I'll be gone too.

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Old 09-10-2021, 01:20 PM
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The purpose-built, high-end electrics from Germany and the US are going to cause big trouble for Tesla. "The Empire Strikes Back."

I'm somewhat of a tree-hugger. Frau Putzer and I are burning one gallon of gasoline per person per day, down from two gallons per person per day in 2005.

I still want 500+ miles of highway range and six-minute refueling (anywhere)... and a spare tire. So, my next car will be a non-hybrid, non-electric 330i or 530i. A 330i will get 40 MPG on the interstate.

By the time gas pumps are gone, I'll be gone too.
So, what's each of those BMWs going to cost you new? Including doc fees, tax, title, licensing?

What's CITY mpg on 'em?
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Old 09-10-2021, 02:03 PM
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So, what's each of those BMWs going to cost you new? Including doc fees, tax, title, licensing?

What's CITY mpg on 'em?
Frau Putzer's 2018 X3 MSRP-ed for $56,320. Our price after rebates, before taxes was $49,918. With taxes, the bottom line was $53, 382. Because of the used car shortage, it only depreciated about $900 in its third year.

Modern BMW's have three maps for transmission and engine logic: Sport, Comfort, and EcoPro. Comfort is the logic used in the EPA tests, and the default when you start up the car. But, EcoPro does way better than the EPA numbers. But, if it was the default when you start the car, people would stop buying BMW's.

EcoPro smooths out the driver's throttle (gas pedal) inputs, upshifts automatic transmissions early, and shifts the automatic transmission into neutral when coasting.

My last 33-mile Sam's Club/Cracker Barrel run in the X3 got 33 MPG. Between Dothan, AL and Bubbaville Beach, FL, it got 36 MPG. This morning's five-mile veterinarian-Starbuck's-Panera's run only got 17 MPG. The X3 does better than my 2007 Chevy Cobalt.

A few weeks ago I did just a run to Cracker Barrel and back in the X3, starting around 8 p.m., and broke 40 MPG. (The actual MPG is about 1% less than the displayed MPG.)

Frau Putzer's run to Flintstone, GA and back in the X3 yielded 31.3 MPG. She had a yabba-dabba-doo time, a dabba-doo time, she had a gay ole' time. (Actually it was a gay ole' time. She went to a lesbian wedding.)

Since new, the X3's got 25.2 MPG. But, that's a lot of short trips and Frau Putzer not using EcoPro. She drives like a chimpanzee on PCP.

I had a 330i loaner last year. Based on my one fill-up, it looked like the actual MPG was 6% below the displayed MPG. Even accounting for that, I got 35 MPG while I had it, and 39.7 MPG on a 70+ mile stretch of interstate at an indicated 78 MPH. That's better than my 1997 Honda Civic did.

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