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raymr 11-11-2009 12:26 AM

My only regret is that Maryland doesn't have the balls to impose the death penalty, so Virginia had to do it.

Billybob 11-11-2009 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tankdriver (Post 2336583)
Do you know anything about him besides his last name?

Why does his last name matter?

Are you simply pro-multiple murder of any distinction or only pro-Muslim multiple murderer or pro-multiple murderer of certain last names only?

The self professed Muslim convert who'd been convicted after murdering 10 completely innocent people was sentenced to death this evening, that's a good thing!

I do know that there are the families and friends of his 10 victims have had their existence irrevocably altered by his actions.

I know this Muslim multiple murderer father figure enlisted young Lee Boyd Malvo as his co-murder resulting in his being sentenced to life in prison.

I know I was a forum member when these events transpired 7 years ago and when it was certain that this Muslim multiple murderer had been put to death by means that are much too civilized, I thought it was useful to update the thread.

So the real question is what do you care about this now dead Muslim multiple murderers? Or where you just reflexively reacting based on your own prejudice and attempting to insinuate someone posting in celebration of him getting his just deserts has some animas other that the nature of his crimes? Do tell?

Billybob 11-11-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GregoryV022 (Post 2336592)
talk about resurrecting a dinosaur

You where still sh***ing yellow when these things where first posted about, no one expects you to have much of a perspective!

dynalow 11-11-2009 07:21 AM

One less Islamic terrorist to warehouse forever.
Thank you Governor Kane.

Next up? Maj. Hasan?

tankdriver 11-11-2009 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2336652)
Why does his last name matter?

Are you simply pro-multiple murder of any distinction or only pro-Muslim multiple murderer or pro-multiple murderer of certain last names only?

The self professed Muslim convert who'd been convicted after murdering 10 completely innocent people was sentenced to death this evening, that's a good thing!

I do know that there are the families and friends of his 10 victims have had their existence irrevocably altered by his actions.

I know this Muslim multiple murderer father figure enlisted young Lee Boyd Malvo as his co-murder resulting in his being sentenced to life in prison.

I know I was a forum member when these events transpired 7 years ago and when it was certain that this Muslim multiple murderer had been put to death by means that are much too civilized, I thought it was useful to update the thread.

So the real question is what do you care about this now dead Muslim multiple murderers? Or where you just reflexively reacting based on your own prejudice and attempting to insinuate someone posting in celebration of him getting his just deserts has some animas other that the nature of his crimes? Do tell?

You seem to think his religion is relevant, that's all. He was not religiously motivated.

Dee8go 11-11-2009 10:36 AM

Saying this was worse because he professed to be of a particular religion seems as lame as specifying that a murder is somehow worse if it's a "hate crime." I think that is silly. If you get murdered, you're dead regardless of what the killer's motivation for killing you was.

Mistress 11-11-2009 10:40 AM

note to self- CHECK DATE ON THREADS

Dee8go 11-11-2009 10:47 AM

Well, it's nice sometimes to see the final resolution to some of these things.

It doesn't bring any of his victims back to life, but maybe it helps their families feel a sense of closure or something.

Sometimes the death penalty is not applied fairly, but I think this is one case where there were no doubts. I thought it was rather funny that Maryland who has no death penalty wanted Virginia to have the first shot at those guys. It's kind of like the US exporting suspected terrorists to other countries where they can be tortured. What do they call that?

We're all about out sourcing these days . . .

Billybob 11-11-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tankdriver (Post 2336790)
You seem to think his religion is relevant, that's all. He was not religiously motivated.

You seem to think the fact he was a follower of the religion of peace and love should not be mentioned.

You know he was not religiously motivated, how is that? Do you know him personally, are you related?

"Muhammad has never testified or explained why he directed the attacks that terrorized the Washington region, with victims gunned down while doing everyday chores."

You've shared with the forum that you're a sensative, creative kind of guy "making sculptures with found objects", surely your not going to argue that the "art" a man does is without any purpose, meaning and relavence, or are you!


"The jailhouse drawings of the younger sniper, Malvo, tell it all:

- One sketch of Osama bin Laden exalts him as a "Servant of Allah."

- A self-portrait of him and Muhammad is captioned: "We will kill them all. Jihad . . . Allah Akbar!"

- A sketch of the burning Twin Towers has as its caption: "America did this. You were warned."

- A poem scribbled alongside an American flag and star of David drawn in cross hairs reads: "Our minarets are our bayonets, Our mosques are our baracks, Our believers are our soldiers."

- The Quran (Surah 2:190) is quoted as follows: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you and slay them wherever ye catch them." Also: "Islam the only true guidance."

- The White House is drawn in cross hairs, surrounded by missiles, with the warning: "Sep. 11 we will ensure will look like a picnic to you," and "you will bleed to death little by little."

- Another warning reads: "Islam. We will Resist. We will conquer. We will win."

Somehow CNN's "special investigations unit" managed to overlook this pile of courtroom evidence. It showed only one drawing - a self portrait of Malvo shedding tears."

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=496385&Ntt=Rehabbing+The+D.C.+Snipers

Your luck is holding out so far but I don't think that will last for ever:

However, a lawyer for Mohammad's family said Tuesday that "we have a letter" - presumably written by Mohammad - that would be disclosed at a later time.

At a press conference in Richmond, the sniper's family refused to comment but their lawyer Charlene Paterson "expressed remorse" on their behalf and said they were not prepared to disclose the letter.

"Based on the emotional climate, some of the comments I am sure you are all aware of last night, the family is not comfortable disclosing any of the details on that letter at this time," Paterson said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/11/national/main5615636.shtml

I guess they haven't had a chance to shop it aroud yet! Maybe the Nation of Islam will buy it "to preserve the historical record"?

tankdriver 11-11-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billybob (Post 2336913)

However, a lawyer for Mohammad's family said Tuesday that "we have a letter" - presumably written by Mohammad - that would be disclosed at a later time.

At a press conference in Richmond, the sniper's family refused to comment but their lawyer Charlene Paterson "expressed remorse" on their behalf and said they were not prepared to disclose the letter.

"Based on the emotional climate, some of the comments I am sure you are all aware of last night, the family is not comfortable disclosing any of the details on that letter at this time," Paterson said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/11/national/main5615636.shtml

I guess they haven't had a chance to shop it aroud yet! Maybe the Nation of Islam will buy it "to preserve the historical record"?

I'm not about to jump to conclusions about a letter I haven't read, even though not jumping to conclusions make me a terrorist sympathiser lobbyist in your eyes.

I lived in the DC area when he was on his shooting rampage, and his arrest/trial. He was disturbed, and at no point were there details of any kind about his religious beliefs. No emails to imams, nothing. There were plenty of details about his life, and his wife seemed to think it was about his family situation. He did not start the violence immediately upon his conversion, and according to the article you posted, did not have a spiritual advisor present at the time of his death.



No one talks about the Praise Jesus Christian Tim McVeigh and his Christian partner Terry Nichols because their religion is not relevant to the deed.


As for Malvo, he is a basically family-less wanderer messed up kid, so I don't put a lot of stock in what he draws, nor do I decide that because of his drawings he's an Islamist terrorist. He may have latched onto Bin Laden because Malvo hates the world and Bin Laden attacked it. Maybe Muhammad is a bizarrely silent terrorist as opposed to the overwhelming majority of them who proudly announce why they do it. It doesn't fit the facts so far though.

Craig 11-11-2009 01:49 PM

Congrats, only half your post was bold this time; that's progress.

So, are we to summarize that you don't completely agree with his politics?

Are you inferring that this particular nut-job is representative of his religion?

You know, your arguments would be more persuasive if you didn't blame everything (including your apparent compulsive use of bold text) to some vast muslim conspiracy.

Craig 11-11-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tankdriver (Post 2336939)
No one talks about the Praise Jesus Christian Tim McVeigh and his Christian partner Terry Nichols because their religion is not relevant to the deed.

I'm sure that someplace in the Islamic world, Billybob's counterpart is making exactly that argument. Hopefully, he is being ignored as well.

Stoneseller 11-11-2009 02:27 PM

The only sad part of his life is that it was not taken earlier.
My wife & I live smack dab in the middle of where this nutcase began his spree. She drove past the gas station in Kensington within 1/2 hour of the shooting.
A regular customer & friend of mine was shot while mowing at White Flint Mall.
Good riddance.

Billybob 11-11-2009 03:53 PM

Congrats, only half your post was bold this time; that's progress.

I use bold type face just for you!

So, are we to summarize that you don't completely agree with his politics?

The Muslin multiple murderer has not made his "politics" known to me, just his religion! Although I'd be willing to bet his are closer to yours than they are mine! Probably closer to other guys with Muslim names to!

Are you inferring that this particular nut-job is representative of his religion?

Of course he's representative of his religion as is every believer! The real dispute is the degree to which he and his conduct of represent his religion!

You know, your arguments would be more persuasive if you didn't blame everything (including your apparent compulsive use of bold text) to some vast muslim conspiracy.

Islam, by any definition is a vast conspiracy, as every system of belief. The difference between most if not all other systems is it's the singular fundamental tenet.

Islam:
A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God and to Muhammad as the chief and last prophet of God.

Arabic: islam - submission (to God), from aslama to surrender

Most if not all other belief systems are based upon the fundamental tenet its believers exercising there own free will to choose to follow, where as Islam requires submission of its believers. With Islam the failure to submit has dire consequences here and now whereas the choice not to believe is simply alleged to have consequences in whatever their particular “hereafter”.

This fundamental difference is played out around the world by billions; the consequences for failing to submit are starkly different than those for failing to choose to believe.

The essential question is; can a belief system of submission and surrender diametrically opposed to belief systems of individual liberty and freedom coexist. History shows that from its inception Islam has been in conflict with all those who fail to submit, at times Islam was ascendant and at times it has been descendent. In recent history Islam has been subdued not by choice but through force of will, this is the main gripe of Islamists, Islamo-facism today is the effort to impose the will of Islam on non-believers requiring them to submit or suffer the consequences.

I contend that Islam is an organized political tyranny rooted in seventh century barbarism illegitimately masquerading as a religion; this fraud is unfortunately enabled by climate of contemporary political correctness. Islam is as much a religion as Communism.

Craig 11-11-2009 06:09 PM

Thanks for the clarification; and all this time I thought you didn't have any rational reasons for your opinions.

What's "Communisium," do you also have a problem with people who live in Communes?


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