I came across this while googling for George Bush's SAT test scores (1206) that DieselHead said in another thread were below 1100.

http://www.kearney.net/~tclayton/gore_or_unabomber_no_java.html

You're right, 566 verbal, 640 math. Well, for someone who said that Gore was just as bad as Bush, 625 verbal, 730 math (Gore's combined was 1355, you could have done the math yourself but I saved you some time). These are actually pretty poor scores considering my dad did better and he was an immigrant. But, I guess America has shown that we don't need no smart people. Truman graduated only high school, Reagan was a sports announcer, a crappy actor, and went to a crappy school.

"And so, in my State of the- my State of the Union- or state- my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation- I asked Americans to give you 4000 years- 4000 hours over the next- the rest of your life- of service to America. That's what I asked- 4000 hours."
- George..... it's obvious who it is, Bridgeport, Conn. 4/9/02

"We must have the attitude that every child in America- regardless of where they're raised or how they're born- can learn."
- New Britain, Conn. 4/18/01

How they're born?

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What last post? And my apologies, I thought I had heard that score on CNN (which of course is bunk because the media is in cahoots with the liberals). Does that make you feel better? I have called a lot of conservatives on things here but often times I don't get responses. Atleast I'm admitting that I was wrong. All them conservatives can say they hanged me good. real good.

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So true Narwhal.

As Peggy Noonan so aptly put it' "This is the Democratic paradox: You want so much to run America and yet you seem not so fond of Americans."

Mr. Bush was given ALL possible means of achievement. Money for tutors, the best private secondary school in the country, and he STILL managed to do poorly. Maybe back then a 1206 handily got everyone in to Yale. My comparison was that some immigrants who have nothing, did better than he did.

I'm sure there are some who dispute his solid C record at Yale. His transcript was published in The New Yorker, and if you want me to attach it here, I will, but I suspect that people will think it's a liberal forgery.

Oh well, people will keep on looking for every way to crucify the liberal. It's lonely when you can't just put up an argument like "Saddam is bad, let's get him," and be done with it.

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Actually, the one I remember is "The A students work for the C students, and the B students work for the government"

BTW, the Gore/Unabomber quiz is outstanding, and a little frightening. The best scorer in my office got 75%, and one got less than half right.

Well, if the A students work for the C students, looks like I'll be working for the President.

"To the C students, I say, 'You too can be president of the United States.'"
-300th Yale Commencement

Narwhal,
What else was there to your credibility thing? The Truman/Reagan point? I was conceding using those two examples. Truman was great. Reagan.... that depends. I guess book learning really DOESN'T get you anywhere that being a dunce can't.

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Thanks for making your point using moderate language. Point made. I have a job this summer at a corporate firm. Isn't exactly what I want to do, but it'll be good exposure, and I should probably give everything a try. Oh, and my parents wanted me to save up some money to pay for minor expenses, so I needed to find a job that pays well.

Hopefully I can get to clerking or writing next year.

Alex

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You are so dead on its sending shiver's down my spine. I recently interviewed an "A" student his knowledge of absolutely nothing that had to do with real life was extraordinary. Yet he made several attempts to tell me about his academic achievement. Of coarse he did not do the typical crappy work most real achievers do, just internships. I worked on a sewer crew, landscaping and electrical work while working my way up and kept that solid 2.9 GPA. Now I am running circles around the book worms.

Dhead, you will find that in the real world people value personality and performance above all paper just gets you in the door.

Yup, you're right, the education component only gives you a chance to prove that you can do the work, or whatever. But, that's why doing well in school counts. It gets you through the first door, and gives you the opportunities to let you prove that you can apply yourself. Going to a good school and doing well gets you past the first evaluation. Most academics (by that I mean profs.) are most definitely stuck in their own theoretical world, and I agree that the ones with real experience provide the best, most useful lessons. The best politics prof. I've had was an underground nationalist in Bulgaria in the cold war period before coming over to the US to study and teach. He applied the books to the real scenarios and personal history to bring the material to life. I won't go straight in to academia. I'll probably stay with a private firm, become more conservative, THEN go teach.

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I prefer that to this:

We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." (Hillary Clinton, 1993)

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..." (President Bill Clinton, USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A)



Which can be compared to this:

"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." (Nikita Khrushchev , February 25, 1956 20th Congress of the Communist Party)

"It is thus necessary that the individual should come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole ... that above all the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual. .... This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture .... we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man." (Adolph Hitler, 1933)



'Nuff said?

Mike

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They're presupposing that people will want to sacrifice for society. Surprisingly, I have found that that's not true.

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That's exactly the point. Chiseling away at individual rights, which Democrats (and some Republicans) are notorious for, is NOT good for society in the long run.

So I'll take bumbling speeches over well-rehearsed socialists any day.

Mike

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Mike, you're the good kind of right winger.

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Anybody remember that Einstein had problems in school ?

Anyone understand that what counts later is whether you can find/ hire/ listen to the advise of people smarter than you are...?