Isn't N. Korea violating treaties by having nuclear power? If so, how and why should they expect us to give them so many concessions so they'll disarm?

Personally, I think they're just jerking our chain.

Here's the article:N. Korea offers to dismantle Nukes

I'd hate to bring it up but who are we to complain about violating treaties?

North Korea is not a threat. They may have nuclear weapons, but do they have the air power capable of dropping them on the states or the missle technology capable of reaching us? Nope. I don't like this. As soon as we feel the slightest bit threatened, we all freak out and demand disarmament. Personally, I am more scared of the French with nuclear arms :p

YOU CAN'T HUG YOUR CHILDREN WITH NUCLEAR ARMS

Actually Volkl42 they are a threat because they sell their arms indiscriminately to anybody who wants them. Think radioactive oil if a country like Kuwait was attacked again.

*cough*[Russia]*cough*

I think that we need to keep our own interests as the first priority. Like it was mentioned, even if N. Korea doesn't have the capability to fire their nukes as far as our country, they'll just as easily sell them to someone who can.

On another note, I don't think doing business with them is the answer either. Ronald Reagan broke the back of Communism by continuing a situation in which they couldn't keep up with us economically. Why do business with the enemy?? Isn't that counter-productive to our interests?

China's not exactly our friends either, yet everywhere you look you see the Made in China sticker. I HATE that!! We preach about how important it is to make sure our citizens make a certain amount of money, then farm out all the labor to countries that aren't even friendly to us because it's cheaper. All in the name of $$. Then our own people don't have jobs.

That's un-American.

I first want to say I am no fan of the communist.

Personaly I don't see a big problem paying the N. Korean not to have nuclear arms. After all we pay billions in aid through the Marshal Plan for Western Europe, Japan, S Korea ect not to go communist during the cold war. We paid millions to the Russians because we were afriad that they don't have the money after the collaps of the USSR to control their nuclear weapon. I don't know now much we paid to the Russians but my guess is that it would be a fractions of what we need to pay the N. Koreans.

Look at what the N. Koreans are looking for. The asking for 3 things.
1. A commitment from the U.S. not to attack them. (who want to be attacked)
2. Normalize dipomatic relations with the U.S. (this will allow for trade with the U.S. and U.S business to do business with N. Korea)
3. Food and fule aid (their people are starving)

They just want to survive as an independent country.

So, why not just give aid to the N. Koreans for not going Nuclear. I would make sure that when aid are given they are used for peaceful purposes and use to develop their economy.

I think the real problem is that our President Mr. GW Bush does not believe N. Korea has a right to survive as an independent nation. He want to get rid of the present N. Korean govement. He think we could do so but withholding aid and preventing world trade with N. Korea. Does our president have a right to do that I don't know. I think it is up to the N. Korean (maybe the south Korean) people to get the rid the present N. Korean govement.

blau

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That a country is Nuclear is not the problem. That they threaten us is! How anyone can suggest giving aid to such a government is beyond me.
I could be mistaken but I believe they have missiles that could reach Alaska and other portions of the west coast. Maybe not with accuracy but who cares with a nuclear warhead.
The money and food given to them in the past has not been used to feed the common people that are in dire need of assistance, it has been used to keep their army in top shape.
If you believe the President does not think that North Korea should continue in its present state you are more then likely correct. If you were in charge you would be remise to allow this threat to continue. If they ever attack us directly or indirectly through supplying weapons to others, the President would not have done his job.

Glen

We give aid to Russia didn't we. And they have thousands of nuks pointed at us.

Their nuks are top of the line deadly accurate and can reach every city in the world (United State included). And they have thousands of these.

Did the Russians threaten us more then the N. Koreans. Or are the Russians just more polite at it. My though is that the Russians have so much nuks that they could afford to have a policy where their bite is a lot worse then their bark. Where the N. Koreans have to have a bark much worst then their bite.

Lets looks at the facts and not at the rehetoric. Lets not let the rethetoric use by the N. Korean or President get us into a war.

blau

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So it was okay to give them money? Now they're selling their technology and weapons to our enemies.

Does the mistake we made with Russia make it okay to repeat it with N. Korea?

When we give a country aid it is almost never in cash. It is usually U.S good or in more cases surplus (such as surplus food).

There are no evidences that Nuclear arms are flowing out of N. Korea. There is strong evidence that they are selling missle techknowledge to other nations. If their people are starving and they don't have any other means to feed themselves what would you have them do?

My suggestion is to get them out of this disperate situation.

In my opinion we did not make a mistake with Russia. What should we do instead? Do nothing and let nuclear material flow out of Russia through black market channels. Invade the country to secure the nuclear material. These are not pratical solutions. So, we paid the Russians to haven them secure their nuclear material. I suppose you could argue that in the case of the Russians we could not give into blackmail and hold out until the Russians agree to give up all or some more of their nuclear arms, and the Russians would have laugh at us. But, we are asking the N. Koreans to do it. No that is not ture. We are demanding that the N. Koreans disarm first before even we talk.

blau

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