GM Hummer discussion (H1 and H2)
 

I was looking at hummers, and i was wondering this:

The early hummers when first came out (H1) were in the $80-$120 price range. More of a upper class luxury SUV.

Then with the H2s they are priced more in the $50-60's price range. more of a cadillac escalade type pricerange.

The numbers are not exact, but they give the general idea that they are pricing them to compete more with other SUVs for soccer moms or something. What happened?

So i was looking at hummers online, and a used H1 costs almost the same as a new H2, what gives?

The H2 is in essence a less sturdy detuned H1.

Howdy Johnson,
The H1 still had the portal axles so you had more clearance (no diff hanging down in the middle). All the components were a lot heavy duty. The H2 is a GM pick-up truck with a Hummer body.

I've spent seat time in Hummers (family friend sells 'em).

H1 is better in almost every category except for creature comforts. Most important to H1 owners is that they will tackle a more severe environment than H2 (approach angle, clearance, etc).

The H2 is targetted as you stated for the "soccer mom" SUV crowd although I can't see too many women wanting to drive this. Try driving one and finding parking (it's so WIDE).

The pricing for the new H1 is staying high due to what you get compared to the H2. H1 pricing is what it always was and the H2 was built with less so that its pricing targets a totally different crowd.

Not sure if I answered your question.

Hummer H1 - GM DIEsel

Hummer H2 - Chevy tahoe in a Hummer box and NO diesel available

Mercedes Unimog - MERCEDES DIESEL!!

No comparison. Mercedes wins.

the military Hummers can survive landmines. I believe that the commercial ones had this capability intact ...

God bless those Hummer owners that can afford the $75 to $90 to fill up their tanks . . . literally and figuratively! :D

My thoughts exactly! I'd take a 'Mog, any IH light 4x4, a Dodge Power Wagon, or an old Jeep anyday. I've been told by military types that even the military-spec Hummers are real maintenance-intensive, and, military-spec or not, I don't care for independent suspension on a drive axle.

But that's just me. :)

I've been told that the H2 is a CHevy Tahoe with a different body. Don't know if that's true or not...

My friend has a 98 H1
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IT IS THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE THING EVER!!!!!
if your the driver your fine but if your the front passenger you need to be one small person because of the huge engine hump. The back seats are not that bad looking out of the side windows if taller than 6 foot seems to get old. It only cost him 55 dollars to fill up both Diesel tanks or he can fill up at home for free :rolleyes:
But they are kind of cool with stuff like the rims that can inflat the tires.
I would personally go with the H1 as well but just because of the plastic feeling to the h2
when my dad was in Atlanta he was buying 3 or 4 hummers a month for the night club some H1's some H2's and some Hum V's all of which he said the H1 seemed to have the most usefull setup since the Hum V could not break 45 and the h2's were back at the dealer every few weeks. The H2 limo also was at the dealer for 6 months because they could not the back end to ride straight the rear went right the front would go straight. Just some things to think about

Howdy All,
The H1 and the HUMVEE are tough vehicles and can take a pounding. One thing they lack is wheel articulation of which the Mog has a bunch. I don't know how many of you know about the "Hammer" trails in Johnson Valley in the Mojave desert in S.Cal.. They are some of the worst boulder strewn trails around. Hummers don't do them because of the lack of articulation and they are just too big. Only the best "Built" rigs do these trails. Jeeps, Broncos, TLCs, Sammys, and a few other short wheelbase rigs. All with 36" tires, huge after market axles (usually dana 44), Built engines and lockers at both ends. And of course STOCK Unimogs :cool:

I've GOT to get me a 'Mog someday :D

In all honesty, I think that my F-250 can go most places that a Hummer (even an H1) can go...the wheel base is real close, and my truck's narrower.

Wow
 

Amazing the 1960's-1970's Unimogs can tackle all the stuff that brand new Hummer's were built to do. That's MB engineering. What about the old G's? Like the 240GD's? Can they handle anything really bad? I remember I saw US marines using G wagens in Iraq on the news...

Personally if i had to choose it would be a H1. when you say it cant top 45, do you mean 45 miles per hour?!?!? I know they have diesel engines but...

Just do the arnold thing and put a corvette engine in it :D

So where is the future of hummer going? it was once a exclusive offroad type vehicle, now are they trying to get that market share and the SUV/soccer mom/etc. type market as well?

I wonder what original H1 owners feel on this issue.

I would want one someday, but dont really have room or a purpose for it, unless i can buy an offroad insurance on repairs i would not take a $110 vehicle offroading, lol.

Howdy Kyle,
It seems that the G owners say that the first GW they would start with for tough four wheeling would be the 280G. The 240GD was under powered and I'm not real sure but it may have had some problems. You might post the question in the G,ML,Mog forum. I think you could do a search on it and find some answers. Remember this. Where one machine gets through another might not. What one machine can do another can't. You can find a way to make one look better than the other. And then turn it around and make the other one look good:)

I drove HumVee's in the Army and have absolutely no desire to drive one in civilian life. My Avalanche, Suburban and Tundra do every thing that I have to do. The Avalanche is the true stand out the ride is superior to most cars, SUVS or any truck and it goes through just about anything I have put it through. If I really needed a true off road truck the MOG would be at the top of my list. Keep in mind that HumVees have fuel support trucks following them everywhere they go. If a truck can't get at least 400 miles to a tank of fuel I have no use for it.

Ted when I have extreme shrinkage theres other horses in the stable;)