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rickg 08-14-2003 01:46 PM

What's a "MCC Smart"?

Eberhard Weilke 08-14-2003 02:26 PM

This is the degenerated piece of crab:

http://smart.com/smart/images/cityco...pe_home_de.jpg

They call it "City Coupe"

Kind regards
Eberhard

rickg 08-14-2003 02:28 PM

Looks like an updated version of the old BMW Isseta:D

bmunse 08-14-2003 02:46 PM

Say Eberhard, have you ever driven the truck version of the 2cv? We had on here in St Louis. It was called a Majare. All plastic body. Push pull shift like the 2cv.
Our newspaper delivery guy had one of those apache trucks when I was a kid. I thought it was a Pontiac. It was powered with a Pontiac engine.

mbz380se 08-14-2003 02:50 PM

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BLACKMERCEDES have you ever driven a Range Rover 4.4 V8?
What's so special about the new Rangie? A decade-old Jeep Grand Cherokee V-8 will out-accelerate one in all legal speed ranges (and yes, even with the new BMW V-8), have more skidpad grip, and destroy it off-road in stock form.

Don't believe me? Read Car and Driver's Road Test archive.

-Sam

Eberhard Weilke 08-14-2003 03:06 PM

The one you probably have in mind was the Mehari. It is the one right in the middle;
http://www.citrobe.org/images/2cvaustria_small.JPG

My 2 CV is not exactly a truck, but from time to time it has to fulfill truck duties :)
http://www.ikonengold.de/eberhard/kran1.jpg

Kind regards
Eberhard

bmunse 08-14-2003 03:32 PM

Yes, Eberhard, thats it. The years made me miss spell it. You have a good collection of pictures! And a bumble bee 2cv! I bet there's a story there.

Eberhard Weilke 08-14-2003 03:58 PM

The pic of the brochure is from an austrian 2CV club.

And the bumble bee: I got the car in 1991, restored it, crashed it, restored it again and know, after 140tkm it is still in the fleet.

Pretty handy for carrying an engine lift ;)

The color pattern was a suggestion of my little sister (which actually learned driving on this car)

Kind regards
Eberhard

Darrell Woods 08-14-2003 04:44 PM

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Don't believe me? Read Car and Driver's Road Test archive.
mbz380se, comparing a ten year old Jeep to the new Range Rover? Like comparing apples and oranges...the only similarity is they both roll on four wheels. Car and Driver actually did a "5 Best Trucks" in July 2002. From a field of over 100 trucks, vans, and SUVs, they picked one for each of five different categories. One of those was "Luxury SUV". Any takers on which vehicle won? O.K., I'll tell you. 2003 Range Rover. Now, would it perform as well off road as a '95 Jeep? I don't know, and, I don't know too many people who are going to plunk down $70,000 and go scratch, dent and bang it up offroad. This is a lux SUV, with the emphasis on lux. Yeah, I know it squats down for freeway flying, and then raises to 11" of offroad ground clearance. Still, I take my LR Discovery offroad, I see Defenders offroad, and I've occasionaly seen an old RR offroad. But, the first time I see a 2003, I'll post pics. I just don't think it'll happen that often. These are again, freeway vehicles with luxury appointments, excellent all weather capabilities, and if you're so inclined, the ability to get, well...inclined. :p

mbz380se 08-15-2003 05:45 PM

The fact is, the Range Rover has slower acceleration, much less axle articulation, and even has worse skidpad grip than the aforementioned Jeep. Or a Disco, for that matter!

The Disco is a "real SUV", with solid axles and plenty of ground clearance and flex. At least in this iteration. I have no beef with your Disco; I'm very impressed that the 40K Disco has better handling on-road and equivalent acceleration, and will also utterly destroy the "superior" Range Rover offroad.

Of course, so will any V-8 4wd Jeep Grand Cherokee, or recent Toyota 4Runner V-6 or V-8, and half a dozen others.

-Sam

Larry Delor 08-15-2003 10:38 PM

Worst car I ever owned was a 1988 LeBaron Convertible.
3 tops, 2 electronic dashes, blown infinity speaker, paint wore off the trunk lid, dead battery, steering lock locked permanently. All this, before it reached 32k miles.
The computer on it was a joke...it reacted sooo slow, that by the time it was telling you the truth about your actual mileage, you weren't stomping on the gas pedal anymore. My 300D is faster than that thing was. Its going to be a long time (if ever) before I buy any kind of Chrysler product again...even if some parts are MB...there was just too much crap in that LeBaron for me to believe that it is going to go away anytime soon. Once bitten, twice shy.

Most trouble free car: Surprisingly was a 93 Escort. I had 97k trouble free miles on it before I traded it in on a...

94 Pathfinder, which was more dissappointment than joy. It rode ok, everything functioned ok, but for a little 3 liter, I expected more than 16-17mpg. Also, the pass side exhaust manifold cracked, and apparently it was common, but they weren't going to fix it. The clutch on the A/C also broke, and it took me months to get just the clutch, and not the whole compressor/clutch package.

Honorable mention for ride, goes to the 73 Cadilac Eldorado. FWD, 8.2 liters of guts, and a magic carpet ride. Too bad it got 8mpg on the highway, and 6 in the city.
In comparison, the 80 Jeep CJ that we had, had almost half the displacement (4.2) yet still only managed to get 11 hwy. But it sure was a sturdy vehicle (it was ordered with HD everything).

-Larry

RG5384 08-17-2003 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by C280 Jr
the worse car that i have driven is Acura Integra LS

Elvir

musta been a 4dr auto.......... I havn't driven a car i enjoy driving more than my 2dr 5spd teg. I have heard horrible things about the 4dr autos tho, glad i dont own one.

Piotr 08-17-2003 11:42 PM

I used to own 1990 Integra 4dr auto. My neighbor (MAN was she cute..) had 1990 2dr manual. We switched cars for an afternoon. Then we drag raced them. NO DIFFERENCE! This was the first time I began doubting the superiority of manual over auto. BTW- I LOVED the car. Of course, it was shipped hear from Japan ("J" VIN ), so maybe that's the diff. I sold to to a friend of mine in 1994 with about 40K mi for $8400. He sold it in 2000 with 198,000 mi for... $6500. he spent a total of $230 in repairs.

Excuse me, I've got to go to replace another $300 in parts in my MB 190 D bringing total in repairs (mostly in parts) to about $3400- since July 2000.

rickg 08-18-2003 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by bard-ii
1989 lx 5.0 contvibel with whyte lether seats. They all torn up.:o
Huh?:confused:
You speak-o no good-o english? Eh?:confused:

rickg 08-18-2003 12:35 PM

Oh. So now you're deleting posts, huh?:D


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