Are you circumcised? Do you wish you weren't or do you believe it's the correct thing to do. Would you circumcise your kids?

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Now there's a touchy subject
From all the reading I've done, health-wise, I lean towards doing it. I am, and had my son "fixed" after he was born. But there's a whole group out there that argue strongly against it, and they say the health problems are slim. But my arguement is, if you do have a problem later in life, and need to get circumcised, it's no picnic. My wifes uncle had to have it done at about 40, and he was miserable!! Of course, one of the big arguements against it is the trauma to the infant. But I sure don't remember it, and it couldn't have been a whole lot worse than the birth process.
Do a search. There's lot's of good(and bad) info on the net.

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I like the title" Circumcision poll".

Its a subject for which you get a hands-on feel--deeply personal, but don't lose your head over it. Regardless of one's position on this subject, we should hold ourselves erect.

My hats off to you, and everybody.

Botnst

Do it.. just don't take too much off the top.

The book The Joy of Uncircumcising! by Jim Bigelow contains an excellent discussion of circumcision (and how to restore the foreskin - who knew?! Although you cannot restore the removed extra-rich nerve tissue). I've read the book and I recommend it.

A few items from the book and elsewhere:
*If circumcision must be done to save males from penile cancer (the explanation most often offered favoring circumcision), then why didn't the world suffer a blight of penile cancer before the 1920s when the practice became so prevalent in (principally) the United Staes?

*As most of europe, south america, the middle east and the asia-pacific region leave the penises of their male babies intact, why don't those same parts of the world suffer epidemics of penile cancer?

*The Circumstraint™ is manufactured by Olympic Medical in Washington state. This is essentially a board that the baby boy's body is strapped down to for restraining him while surgery is performed on his penis. This board is a similar but smaller version of what Timothy McVeigh was strapped to at the U.S. penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana when drugs were injected into him.

*Removed foreskins are a profit-making and tax-generating segment of the American economy:
A. Since the 1980s, many hospitals have been supplying baby foreskins to private bio-research laboratories and pharmaceutical companies who require human tissue as research material. Companies that have been, or are, in the business include include Advanced Tissue Sciences, Organogenesis and BioSurface Technology.
B. On average, a doctor (excluding nurse, facility, etc.), earns about US $125.00 per circumcision.

*Parents and guardians are facing increasingly troublesome consequences when faced with the decision to circumcise male children in their care. Lawsuits are increasingly being brought by those that have been circumcised against doctors, hospitals and parents. Some matters continue to be litigated while others have been settled.

*Some federal and state government agencies in the U.S. have begun to curtail or completely end their payment for the procedure because the evidence of its efficacy continues to be examined and reputiated. In 1999, Medicaid funded a total of 310,403 circumcisions with a total cost to the US taxpayer of approximately $35 million.

*Dr. Dean Edell has taken an interesting approach to the issue of circumcision by encouraging parents to:
A. Learn about the subject from more sources than just the family doctor.
B. Watch a videotape of the complete circumcision procedure and decide for themselves whether or not they are comfortable with forcing the newborn boy in their care to go through the same procedure.

Finally, to my way of thinking, it seems odd that human beings would find the need to "fix" something about a perfectly healthy baby boy that has just been born. Nature needs to be "fixed"?!

For more information, in addition to the book above, the web site http://www.infocirc.org is an option.

I would guess that it might make a difference whether the child was male or female??

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For some reason we treat females different. Besides obvious differences in genitalia, there's no difference in principle.

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Not in some countries! Ever heard of a clitorectomy?!

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Clitorectomies are most often performed on those females born in African and middle eastern countries. Surprisingly, many people in the Americas have never heard of such a procedure. It is not, unfortunately, an uncommon practice.

The differences between male and female circumcisions are that female circumcisions are done when the girl is around 10- 12 years old and stop a woman from experiencing sexual pleasure. While male circumcisions are said to diminish sexual pleasure, they are not as radical as female circumcisions.
It is easy to see how female circumcision (female genital mutilation is the preferred term now) is done to control a woman's sexual desire for someone other than her husband/owner.

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Or for anyone at all, more than likely! Idiots!

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I think anyone who get's the Circumcision done are the the most optimistic people because they take off something before even knowing how big it is going to get.

Now you've touched a subject that is near and dear to my heart. Too bad I'm going on vacation tomorrow and won't be around to see how this plays out. I hope everybody follows the rules so this thread doesn't get "moderated."

The circumcision is really a triple whammy to the organ, potentially resulting in a huge loss of pleasure. First, thousands of nerve endings are removed along with that "little patch of skin." Those nerve endings can never be repalced. Second, the protection for the glans is taken away, so the glans itself becomes dry and thickens. The term for this is keratinization. The glans should NOT feel like skin, it should feel like the tissue in the inside of your lower lip. Third, taking away the forskin leaves us with no other option then to directly rub the glans during sex. Most any uncut guy will tell you that rubbing the glans directly is not pleasurable! What nature intended was for the foreskin to roll back and forth over the glans and stimulate those nerve endings in the foreskin. That's what provides the most pleasure to the uncut guy.

How do I know all this? Because I was circumcised as an infant and have had problems later because of it. By age 30 there was almost a complete loss of sensitivity in my glans. After doing some research, I started restoring my foreskin a couple years ago. About half way through the process now, there is some improvement. But as I said above thousands of nerve endings were cut off and cannot ever be recovered.

Why would anyone do that to their child? By circumcising your son, you are doing irreparable harm to a body that is not your own. In my opinion, nobody has the right to do that to someone else. If I didn't love my parents so much, I would have considered suing them and the doctor who did this to me.

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well, I, being a Caucasian-European, am not, an it cracks me up when I hear argument to perform a surgery on an infant because it will help him with personal hygene. Ya know, kids get dirt between their toes too. Maybe we should amputate those, too??
As somebody mentioned previously, MOST of the rest of the world does not do it, and it seems that they are fine. I belive it's more of a sheep mentality (" well other parents do it, so...").

BTW, my wife and I had this discussion, and with a help from her sister, we decided not to do it ("son should look like Daddy", I believe was the final statement). We were astounded when in hospital doctor told us that only about 50-60% of parents decide to do it.

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When the doctor asked my father if he wanted me circumsized he said : Hell no....let him ware it off like I did!

John

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