I've tried ignoring this for a while but it's beginning to piss me off. A member here is shill bidding on his own items on Ebaymotors. It is fairly obvious and I have plenty of proof. It is so bad that he actually WON a couple of the items he is selling with his alter-egos, then turned around and relisted the item AND BID AGAIN WITH THE SAME I.D! So the poll question is, do I out him to everyone here? If this member wants to e-mail me to explain what the hell he is doing, go right ahead. I'd love to hear it.

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83 M-B 300D- daily driver
83 240D gray market
2002 VW Jetta TDI- beater

I use eBay a lot, and that $h!t pi$$es me off....so I say turn him in.

Mike

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1979 300 SD
350,000 miles
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1985 300TD
270,000 miles
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1994 E320
not my favorite, but the wife wanted it

www.myspace.com/mikemover
www.myspace.com/openskystudio
www.myspace.com/speedxband
www.myspace.com/openskyseparators
www.myspace.com/doubledrivemusic

What's your problem, Klukyoo? Is he talking about YOU?

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Mike

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1979 300 SD
350,000 miles
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1982 300D-gone---sold to a buddy
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1985 300TD
270,000 miles
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1994 E320
not my favorite, but the wife wanted it

www.myspace.com/mikemover
www.myspace.com/openskystudio
www.myspace.com/speedxband
www.myspace.com/openskyseparators
www.myspace.com/doubledrivemusic

I have often suspected "shills" in auctions - how did you sleuth this guy out?

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00 E420
98 E300 DT
97 E420 Donor Car - NEED PARTS? PM ME!
97 S500
97 E300D
86 Holden Jackaroo Turbo D
86 300SDL
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He's selling ATSG manuals and has been for over a year. I used to watch them go higher and higher. Then I started noticing the bidders i.d's were always the same ones, bumping up the price till it reached 'critical mass' just before the auction ended. Too bad a couple of times it didn't work and he was left holding the bag. But, the next auction for a manual and the same person would bid again....for the same $16 manual they just supposedly spent $100 on that had the internet address in it where they could buy an unlimited amount for cheap! So since Ebay doesn't give a ****(hell, they make more money when shill bidding is going on) I'm going to try to put an end to it here. The member is jhodg5ck and his shill i.d's are 'giannarome' and 'silverstar560'. Here's the URL to the latest auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34227&item=2466569060

Please excuse my ignorance: What is a "shill" operation?

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1992 500SEL 25K
1995 E320 40K
1995 SL600 120K
2002 JX8 Sport 43K
2005 Volvo S40 95K
2006 Isuzu NPR 304K (Frankencamper)
2007 Crown Victoria 150K
2014 Smart Electric 20K

A shill is a fake. Shill bidding involves using alternate IDs or accomplices to bid on your products in order to raise the price. It's illegal and unethical but difficult to prove and enforce.

I have personally bought a bunch of stuff on Ebay and, so far, most experiences have gone very smoothly. What this guy is doing is not only unethical, but simply uncool. I would notify Ebay and let them handle it. They WILL look into it. The best way to get anything solved on Ebay is to call them on the phone. That way you have a name of an actual person that you can follow up with. They don't make their ph # readily available, but it is out there. Do a "google" search under "Ebay customer service telephone number". As I recall, that's how I found it to resolve a problem that I had.

I don't understand why this is illegal . No one is being forced to bid or buy this guys stuff.

Go into an auction with a price you are willing to pay, if the bids go over that price, don't buy it.

I guess its a slimey thing to do, but I do not see how it could be illegal. If it bothers you, don't do business with this guy.

Please understand that I WOULD NOT do this if I was running an auction, and do feel it is 'weasel tactics,' but on the other hand, no one is forcing you to bid.

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'90 300SE 298k
-300K and it gets put into retirement.
'80 300D 255k Purchased new by family in 1980.

Had a:
1973 220 (gas)
1980 300SD
1992 400E

I don't know if it's actually illegal in the 'real world', but it is a sleazy business practice, and it is DEFINITELY against eBay policy, and the policies of any other online or real-world auction, and should be grounds for permanantly banning him from doing business on eBay.

Mike

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1979 300 SD
350,000 miles
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1982 300D-gone---sold to a buddy
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1985 300TD
270,000 miles
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1994 E320
not my favorite, but the wife wanted it

www.myspace.com/mikemover
www.myspace.com/openskystudio
www.myspace.com/speedxband
www.myspace.com/openskyseparators
www.myspace.com/doubledrivemusic

That's really all I meant by "illegal". No reputable auction house or site will tolerate it. It's grounds for getting your a$$ booted right out the door.

Shill bidding is annoying... but if you're bidding an amount you're willing to pay, whats so "illegal"?

If you have to ask, the answer may not be within your reach...

Bingo!

HI ALL
Would like to hear from MB owners that purchased a car from Ebay. Are you satisified or do you regret? Thanks. Happy driving.

Joe Moon

85-380SL-88k
94-E320Sedan-63k
94-E320Cabriolet-62k

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