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where did tollerance for opposing ideas go on this board?
Seems to me the liberals seems to have a total lack of tolerance to ideas and concepts right of center...............
Sort of like the John Kerry campain. Instead of rationally discussing what he would do better he has to insult and attack Bush. Much like a lot of members here appear to do. ANd don't think it goes unnoticed. Seems like tolerance has gone the wayside with things like manners and respect. Not just this board but in society in general. I think the members who have nothing but hatred in their hearts and contempt for anyone who does not think exactly as they do really needs to take a step back and look at themselves and think. Your perspective is not the only one. and it isn't the right one all the time. And freedom of speech is not just for you, but for everyone. and regardless of your religion or denial thereof this golden rule works. Treat others as you yourself would want to be treated. If you stab others in the back, you need to spend you life watching over yours....... Not a nice or freindly way to go through life. I sleep well at night because I never do that..........EVER. THe Conservatives on this board are entitled to their opinions too. Not just the left and everyone in between. Last edited by Not_a_Liberal; 05-15-2004 at 11:45 PM. |
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Try arguing in favor of your position. Construct arguments that are consistent, sound and on topic. Its okay to argue against another viewpoint, but arguing by denigrating one's opponent is at best, cheap. If some jerk conducts a character assasination against you, try to deflect the comment back to the argument.
In print, usually a hint is more effective than a grenade. Is anybody so beatified that they live up to what I wrote? I doubt it. But WTF, why set easily attainable goals for yourself? B |
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Nobody is perfect but certain obvious members of the leftist persuasion seem to get away with nothing but personal threats and character assults. and nothing ever becomes of it. But let someone mention a concept right of center and the left complains to the moderators.
Its real clear who they are and not needed to mention. But its obvious the people who are incapible of a rational debate. Most of them are quite young. I welcome debate, not personal attacks. Always have. |
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some times, perceived 'attacks' are simply demonstration of unsound, invalid, or inconsistent arguments. Often, those who put forth the original argument take the critique personally rather than attempting to correct their rationale or (heaven forbid) modify their argument. Most people are not used to having their ideas be subjected to scrutiny, and most of the same are caught off-guard when their ideas do not stand up to such scrutiny. Its easy to behave as a cornered dog when confronted with this... However, if all sides keep the criticism on the rationale and avoid the personal transferrance, we'd be in much better shape. I'm as guilty as the next guy of being amazed at the standards by which some on this board choose to live their lives, but I enjoy the discourse- and value knowing that those other opinions are out there in force. so, if you come up with premises x and y and conclude A, you ought to defend your argument, not your SELF. And those who offer their critique ought to focus on the same. Hopefully I'll stay on the right (er, good) side of the mods this way... and keep this forum valuable for us all.
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Finally, perhaps the true conservatives will finally show up and take the megaphone away from some who tend to embarass the conservative side of the issues. I look forward to discussing issues with members who are truly representative of the conservative point of view.
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Don't be a commie yo.
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I'm amazed and speechless. I was watching that show ALIAS last night.
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". . . was his Name-O."
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WAIT! I'm confused. All of you keeping responding to Not a Liberal as if he were VADUDE. This just can't be. I know that VADUDE would never attempt to LIE or DECEIVE members of this board by using a different screenname. You all know how much he abhors any form of LYING. Just take a look at any thread he ever wrote about CLINTON. The way he came down on him for lying about a BJ you just know VADUDE would never commit the same SIN of deception. He wouldn't be able to live with himself if he draped himself in the HYPOCRISY he so righteously detests!
And VADUDE thinks I would never defend him, there I just did. |
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When you're banned you cannot come back with the same screen name. No need to invoke a vast rightwing conspiracy.
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