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Ya'll come met GW's biggest financial contributor in Texas now, ya hear!
http://www.txpeer.org/toxictour/pilgrim.html |
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Have a good drink of water while your here too
Of course, don't take my word for it, these are just the facts:
http://graysonco.texoma.net/Democrat/governor_george_w.htm Here's my favorite Fun Texas Fact: "A third of the Texas rivers and streams probably violate federal water quality standards, though no one is certain because the state declines to test them all." League of Conservation Voters and The Dallas Morning News, April 12, 2000 |
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I would think that these "outliers" could be some of the numbers that those on either side of the issue could use to support some of their startling comments. That's why it's so important, like you suggested, to look at the raw data-- free from someone or some orgainzation's agenda.
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Then you should move to Houston.
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I'm sure everyone is aware that the EPA was started under the Nixon administration, but he was hardly a conservative.
What I love is that the so called "experts" on the environment are lawyers that ride around in limos. They are considered experts because they sue business for money. They have probably never pitched a tent or dropped a hook into a stream their whole life. Too many times the environment is used as a political weapon by those that believe that the only way to protect the environment is for Government to take more and more land away from private use. As a strong conservative, I believe we have a moral imperative to protect the environment. My family has been into organic farming since the 60s. To say that one ideology is for the environment and another is against it is irresponsible. There is plenty of agreement about the problem, but there needs to be more openmindedness about the solutions. |
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I hope that the label of anti-environmental gets taken from the conservative ideology. Illegal dumping or any violation of environmental laws should be enforced strictly. I think everyone would agree with that. Here are more "solutions" that make conservatives nervous: Government telling people what cars they can drive. Government keeping energy producing companies from upgrading their equipment to increase efficiency. Government buying up private land to prevent energy production. Government telling auto manufacturers how many cars they can produce at a particular MPG rating. People expecting the Government to invent new ways for energy usage. Just because conservatives question these solutions doesn't mean that they don't agree with the problems. |
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There is nothing wrong with being eviromentally aware.....but there is when you go overboard by ignoring facts when they don't agree with your agenda.
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my understanding of current dogma is that the conservatives believe that the end times (rapture) will come before we do any serious harm to the enviroment.
Sort of a "drive it like you stole it because Jesus is coming" attitude. I can't make stuff like this up. |
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I'm rather conservative and I'm all for lower pollution, as long at it makes economic sense, I.E. don't drive business out of the country because higher costs.
The environment is not a religion for me at all, as it is some. God made us smart enough to use the Earth's resources for our own benefit.
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