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Old 06-06-2004, 01:04 PM
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I remember well, the Regan Presidency. There is little to compare him with as he was a class act above and beyond anything that Washington can even hope to offer. Many of his speeches are memorable. I remember the one he gave after sending Khadafi our calling card following the Lockerbe plane bombing.

He was a great leader, and the world has lost another great individual.

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Old 06-06-2004, 05:29 PM
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I cannot remember the Reagan presidency being only 2 years old when he left office in 1989, but seeing the media coverage now and reading previous speeches one can get an idea of what kind of man he was.

I was trying to imagine our current leader going to Berlin and making such a dramatic and forceful speech as Reagan did in 1987, not to mention his tactful manuevering to diffuse a standoff that could have destroyed the world. (along with another great leader, Mikhail Gorbachev) While it seems his policies were way out of line with my own, he was clearly a great man deserving the highest respect. It was strange watching clips of his old speeches and to see someone who seemed to genuinely care about his country more than his re-election campaign.

RIP Ronald
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Old 06-06-2004, 07:51 PM
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...Many still hate him but are quite [sic] out of respect for the dead.

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If you've got nothing nice to say...

No matter whether you think he was a saint or something less, it will be interesting to see how the RNC and General Rove exploit both the 911 tragedy AND his passing at the Republican convention in New York. I hope they can restrain themselves on either count to keep the propaganda factor respectful for all involved. No doubt, the DNC will do the same when either Carter or Clinton meet Bonzo in the 'big sleep'-- sad but true...
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Old 06-06-2004, 07:56 PM
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60 minutes did an article on him tonite and did a good job of it. It will be awhile before we have another president like him. RIP Ronnie.
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Old 06-06-2004, 07:59 PM
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Riiiight.

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...it should be self evident that I was trying to restrain myself as well. We all know how this will play itself out...
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Old 06-06-2004, 08:15 PM
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Ya know Ted, a lot of us find it all too easy to get sucked into the politics of the personal in the bitterness of the current political climate. I try to keep my attentions and animus on policies rather than personalities, but nearly all the political chatter that comprises 'debate' these days seems to focus on matters of a personal nature. I also hated Clinton's policies, but I think he got a raw deal, the same goes for Bush II--hate the sin, tolerate the sinner.
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Old 06-07-2004, 01:58 PM
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When I became a US Citizen in the early 80's, I got a letter from Reagan welcoming me to the US. A form letter but a letter nonetheless.

I framed that letter. I have relatives who used to live in the dark side of the Berlin wall. They all thank him for what he did.

Ich bin durch Geburt deutsch, aber ich bin stolz, ein Amerikanerin zu sein!!
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:03 PM
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Unhappy I'm fighting back tears as I write this.

I usually don't get emotional about anyone's passing who was not a relative or personal friend. I have to fight back tears when I see the coverage of our late President. I've never felt like this about someone who I haven't personally met.
God Bless Mr. Reagan!
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Old 06-07-2004, 02:06 PM
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When I became a US Citizen in the early 80's, I got a letter from Reagan welcoming me to the US. A form letter but a letter nonetheless.

I framed that letter. I have relatives who used to live in the dark side of the Berlin wall. They all thank him for what he did.

Ich bin durch Geburt deutsch, aber ich bin stolz, ein Amerikanerin zu sein!!
Great quote! I feel the same. He was the only President who made me feel that way.
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:19 PM
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the place is Schweinfurt. it is northeast of Stuttgart and close to Frankfurt. I lived near Munchen (Munich) so I'm not supposed to like the northern Germans. just kidding.
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I'm too young to remember Reagan as a sitting president, but thankfully not too young to enjoy his legacy. I credit him more than any other president this century for the prosperity we enjoy today.
I have already heard and been impressed by a great deal of what I have heard of him, but what has impressed me a great deal since his passing is how so many people are genuinely saddened by his death and often deeply so.
America has lost one of its finest statesmen, a man of real moral standing and courage, and a true hero.
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:31 PM
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The title "The Great Communicator" didn't only apply to Americans he was highly respected abroad as well.
Yes he was, and every bit of that respect was hard earned. If you recall, he was considered something of a joke in international circles for a time -- the whole cowboy actor thing.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:45 PM
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I Served under President Reagan's leadership

I am proud to say I served in the Army with President Reagan as the CinC.

The soldiers loved his leadership and style. He helped the armed forces regain their self-confidence and self-respect. His support of the armed forces helped us do our job during the last parts of the cold war.

Rest in Peace Mr President, your soldiers will miss you.
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Reagan's legacy?

During the Reagan presidency, thousands of Stingers (a real threat to passenger airplanes nowadays) were supplied to the mujahideen since 1986 after Ronald Reagan ignored CIA objections that they were too dangerous to be given to the rebels. Reagan also adopted the anti-Sandinista strategy in Nicaragua that resulted in the death of ten of thousands of people (thanks to Washington's created army of "contras"). It was his infantile foreign policies that led the United States to "create" Bin Laden (to fight the Soviets) and Saddam (to fight Iran's Islamic Revolution). How many more of his actions for which its bad consequences have reverberated through the world now and for many years to come?

It's a shame that many people cry over the death of an ex- president while ignoring the excruciating pain and terrible losses that families of our soldiers have had to go through because of another Pharaoh-type president.

I feel and cry for the pain of these families. I would care less for the death of an ex-president who died of age. Also, his policies created aweful problems that the world has to cope with nowadays.

Jentay: they would rather thank Mikhail Gorbachev for his "glasnost" and "perestroika" that contributed greatly to the collapse of the Berlin wall.

I thought leader worshipping only exists in communist countries, but I'm wrong. No man's life is more precious than the other's (of course, except that of killers.)

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Old 06-07-2004, 11:58 PM
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Reagan's legacy?

During the Reagan presidency, thousands of Stingers (a real threat to passenger airplanes nowadays) were supplied to the mujahideen since 1986 after Ronald Reagan ignored CIA objections that they were too dangerous to be given to the rebels. Reagan also adopted the anti-Sandinista strategy in Nicaragua that resulted in the death of ten of thousands of people (thanks to Washington's created army of "contras"). It was his infantile foreign policies that led the United States to "create" Bin Laden (to fight the Soviets) and Saddam (to fight Iran's Islamic Revolution). How many more of his actions for which its bad consequences have reverberated through the world now and for many years to come?

It's a shame that many people cry over the death of an ex- president while ignoring the excruciating pain and terrible losses that families of our soldiers have had to go through because of another Pharaoh-type president.

I feel and cry for the pain of these families. I would care less for the death of an ex-president who died of age. Also, his policies created aweful problems that the world has to cope with nowadays.

Jentay: they would rather thank Mikhail Gorbachev for his "glasnost" and "perestroika" that contributed greatly to the collapse of the Berlin wall.

I thought leader worshipping only exists in communist countries, but I'm wrong. No man's life is more precious than the other's (of course, except that of killers.)

Eric
Another glorious post from the the proud editor of this shameful thread, which you started, then lacked the courage to defend. I take it you enjoyed the cold war (which he ended with his "infantile policies") and the economic horrors of the Carter years. Don't worry -- I don't expect a response.....

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