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Vronsky · #76 07-01-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by PaulC
Possibly a reflexive reaction to the increasingly emotional tone of your recent posts.

The trick to baiting those around you is to not become hooked by your own line. Disgraceful behavior from such an experienced provacateur. Perhaps you can bounce back by reverting to your time-tested strategy of displaying thinly-veiled glee over the death and destruction that occurred on 9/11.

And here comes the rest of the rabble: what kept ya so long ?

Vronsky · #77 07-01-2004, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by Joseph Bauers
Posted by JimSmith: Most were proud of their relationships with America and Americans. Those same people are now disturbed that their former adoptive parent has elected to turn its back on them. Don't make fun of the use of inclusive terms when Europeans speak of America. It is a sign of their acceptance of America and Americans as positive influences in their lives. Listen when they tell us they think we are changing and try to understand instead of moon them.

It is not the time to become smaller Americans, it is the time to step up and become bigger and better. The challenge of the future is not going to be met by wearing a white hat to the next confrontation. Jim

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Great post, Jim. Rumsfeld himself set the tone, when he talked of the irrelevance of Old Europe, or some such nonsense. The less we act like we are part of the world, the more we act like we are in charge of the world; and when we do that, just about everybody takes a disliking to us. In Ireland last fall, we could sense the hostility of the people--and keep in mind that Ireland has historically been very keen on the U.S., given all the Irish who emigrated here. Bush, too, with his simpleton "you're with us or against us" mantra was another very bad thing. There are lots of country that ARE with us, at least to some extent. For example, they may be with us as we pursue terrorists, but not with us when we wage pre-emptive war on Iraq.

Joe b.

Totally agree,
When Bush talks about 'allies', he basically means 'servants'. Perhaps that's an attitude left over from the Cold War era when US political leadership was beyond question. These days, however, with the common threat gone, and other regions of the world getting stronger and stronger, it simply doesn't work like that anymore.
Friendship means being prepared to listen to eachother and make joint decisions based on consensus. Clearly, this is not how GWB sees US foreign policy, hence his (& his servants') unilateral action in Iraq, and the resentment by the majority of the other nations in return.

V.

Vronsky · #78 07-01-2004, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by narwhal
Well, in light of this response, I would have to say because it obviously annoys you.

....that's all?

Botnst · #79 07-01-2004, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by Vronsky
...When Bush talks about 'allies', he basically means 'servants'....

Not only does he commune with the dead, he reads minds of the living. This is why I need that foil hat.

B

#80 07-01-2004, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by Joseph Bauers
posted by narwhal: The system works. Some are fighters, and some whine in the corner.

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I guess if you're really simple minded, the world IS easier to understand it if you always break it down to two camps--the good guys (you) and the bad guys (anyone who disagrees with you).

Joe B.

Why is it that you always say people are simple minded, or lacks intellect if they disagree with you?

One thing that is a fact is the people that judge other people intellect are usually the rainman.

#81 07-01-2004, 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by mikemover
A very noble goal, from my point of view!

Mike

Ditto...............very much so.

Vronsky · #82 07-01-2004, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by Botnst
Not only does he commune with the dead, he reads minds of the living. This is why I need that foil hat.

B

Why, you must have quite a collection of these hats by now, B:
there's that big WMD-one, the dull Iraqi-terroristcamps one, and of course that funny Chalabi-one. Are you wearing these all at the same time, or use 'm each for special occasions? I'm sure you look dashing in all of them...

Vronsky · #83 07-01-2004, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Botnst
Wow, what sharp reparte'.

I have several foil hats with "V" on them.

'voil' hat...!

Keep it coming, bro!

mikemover · #84 07-01-2004, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by PaulC
Rabble? Feeling a bit elite today, aren't we?

You're slipping, and judging by the tone of your posts, feeling a bit on the run. What an interesting turnabout.

Yes, isn't it interesting?....It's a common event during debates...when one runs out of intellectual ammunition, one opens one's bag of insults. Very predictable, and often pretty funny as well.

Mike