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Old 06-16-2004, 05:03 PM
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Hot -rodders vs. Ricers...

HOTRODDERS: keeping a low profile and letting the et's tell the story
RICERS: Hoping the outrageous body kit will distract anyone from discussing et's

HOTRODDERS: Sideways into third gear
RICERS: Sideways to avoid high-centering on a speed bump

HOTRODDERS: Tall spindle conversion for better camber gain and tire wear
RICERS: Lowering 3 inches and ruining tires with 4-degrees of negative camber

HOTRODDERS: 600 HP on 92-octane pump gas
RICERS: 300 HP on $3-a-gallon 100-octane race gas

HOTRODDERS: Swapping stock 14 inch wheels for 17s to clear trick brakes and suspension
RICERS: Swapping stock 14 inch wheels for 20's despite stock brakes and suspension

HOTRODDERS: Boost gauge on a blown car, nitrous gauge on a squeezed car
RICERS: Both gauges on a normally aspirated car

HOTRODDERS: 500 lb-ft of torque at 3500 rpm
RICERS: 50 lb-ft of torque at 35,000 rpm

HOTRODDERS: Headers and 3-inch exhaust
RICERS: Stock pea-shooter exhaust pipe with 5-inch tip

HOTRODDERS: 600 HP makes for an earth-shaking street car
RICERS: 600 watts per channel makes for an ear-shattering street car

HOTRODDERS: Buying an aftermarket shifter for shorter throws
RICERS: Buying an aftermarket shifter for the lighted knob

HOTRODDERS: Composite parts for light weight and aerodynamics
RICERS: Composite-veneer dash trim and gauges

HOTRODDERS: Upgrading to a 9-inch cuz you keep breaking stock rears
RICERS: Realizing that your built motor will keep breaking half-shafts forever

HOTRODDERS: Functional air ducts to cool the big-block
RICERS: Six different cosmetic air dams in random locations

HOTRODDERS: Polishing tail-light lenses to bring out the red color
RICERS: Installing clear tail-lights to bait cops

HOTRODDERS: Cruising and burnout contests at car shows
RICERS: Disco-dancing and stereo competitions at car shows
HOTRODDERS: Old-Tech pushrod chevy LS6 pushing 405 HP
RICERS: State-of-the-art, dual overhead cam Honda VTEC pushing 180 HP

HOTRODDERS: Race-class lettering on the rear window
RICERS: Japanese "Honda" lettering on the rear window of a Nissan

HOTRODDERS: Tach mounted on the dash in the drivers line of sight
RICERS: Bobbing-head doll mounted on the dash in the drivers line of sight

HOTRODDERS: Nitrous oxide
RICERS: "Noss"

HOTRODDERS: Installing a 12-point cage after breaking into the 11's
RICERS: Installing a 12-point cage for more places to mount gauges

HOTRODDERS: Feeling the car shake form a lumpy cam
RICERS: Feeling the car shake from booming base

HOTRODDERS: Doing a short burnout to warm the tires before a pass
RICERS: Weaving from side to side cuz nascar racers do it

HOTRODDERS: Comfy stock buckets on a 9-second street car
RICERS: back-breaking fiberglass racing buckets on a 17-second street car

HOTRODDERS: Spending $2000 to get a new Z28 into the 11's
RICERS: Spending $12,000 to get a Civic into the 12's

HOTRODDERS: Showing off a 500 HP dyno sheet
RICERS: Boasting that thier 150 HP mill makes more HP/liter

HOTRODDERS: Installing subframe connectors to stiffen the chassis
RICERS: Connecting the subframes with neon lights

HOTRODDERS: Throttle steer
RICERS: Torque steer

HOTRODDERS: Leaving on the third amber light at the strip
RICERS: Blowing through red lights on the street

HOTRODDERS: Turning a $2000 "fixer upper" into a 10 second car
RICERS: Spending $20k on a car then another $20k on mods only to turn it into a 10 second car
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Old 06-16-2004, 05:04 PM
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Old 06-16-2004, 10:21 PM
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Old 06-16-2004, 11:49 PM
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Here is a little history. Hot rodding got its start on the dry lakes of Southern California. They would come up from the L.A. area to Muroc dry lake which is on Edwards Air Force Base and here at El Mirage. Southern California Timing Association still has time trials on El Mirage dry lake once a month through the summer.
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Old 06-17-2004, 01:57 AM
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Back when I first started driving my cousin and I were big into Subaru's. (we both still drive them) On our old ones we used to find the cannister for the gas evap and stencil large letters onto them. So when someone opened the hood it would read
"RICE CONVERTOR"
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:28 AM
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Most people who mod their Subaru's hate it when people call them ricers
Why? They are...
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Old 06-17-2004, 06:08 AM
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Why? They are...
They prefer to be called Rally Wannabes. Got it?

Since even a stock WRX can toast my car, I'm not saying anything...
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Old 06-17-2004, 10:26 AM
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What about riced BMW's? I see these things everywhere. They also all seem to be 318's Buy a 318 slap a bad set of rims on it and a fart can, and you to can pretend you have an M3.
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:01 PM
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What about riced BMW's? I see these things everywhere. They also all seem to be 318's Buy a 318 slap a bad set of rims on it and a fart can, and you to can pretend you have an M3.
Or.....as a neighbor's kid down the street did:

Get an M3, slap a bad set of rims on it and a fart can, and pretend you are a "ricer"...
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:19 PM
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That's a good one

Here's another funny one: Most people who mod their Subaru's hate it when people call them ricers
Hey now. I resemble that remark. My wife's slightly modified 1997 Impreza is anything but a ricer. It has stock mechanicals, which, IMHO, are as reliable and durable as any gas-powered Mercedes. It has a Prodrive suspension kit (Bilstein struts with Eibach springs), a stiffer rear sway bar, a rigid sway bar link at each corner, 16" WRX wheels with Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position summer tires, and 15" steel wheels with all-seasons for the winter months. Prodrive is the same company that builds the factory WRC rally cars. Their street suspension kits have a reputation for being very well sorted. I got the suspension kit for handling, but it also lowered the car about an inch. I have to admit, the slight lowering gives the car a cool look. I have yet to have any ground clearance problems. The car is a blast to drive in all conditions, and it is a total beast on dirt roads. Turn it into a corner, juice it, and it slides through pretty as you please. For all-out handling on dry pavement, I would probably prefer a RWD car, but I make no apologies for the Subie. Excellent, unique design. Reliability second only to Toyota.
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Old 06-17-2004, 04:35 PM
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I resemble that remark...

I wouldn't call that "ricing." Ricing is performing modifications solely for the purpose of appearence. Sure F1 and Indy cars have big wings on the back. But then they are rear-drive and are actually capable of the speeds at which they come into play; most Civics are not. Now, a slighly lowered Civic with some real suspension tuning and engine work I can respect. But I refuse to take seriously someone who puts a 5" exhaust tip on a car that otherwise has 2" piping. Most of those things literally sound like a lawn mower with their funky mufflers. Four cylinders, no matter how loud they scream, will never have the authority of a V8.
What I don't understand though, is how so many people can be so tasteless. They put a big, ugly, and certainly not aerodynamic spoiler on (sometimes with more than one wing), a huge 18-20" set of wheels that do nothing more than cost a lot of money and kill any ride quality the car once had, they put on "euro" tailights (hey buddy, you wanna see cool taillights? My Fairlane has them, your Accord does not), do a hackjob on the interior to put in huge subwoofers and enough lights to land a 747, and then somehow convince themselves they've got a great car.
And never mind that detroit iron will blow away any ricer, no matter how good, at 1/4 the cost. You can buy an old Lincoln for $1000 and have a driveline (although not a car, but there are plenty good candidates there too) you could build a 10-second car off of. I guess that's just not "cool" anymore.
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Old 06-17-2004, 07:00 PM
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I resemble that remark...

I But I refuse to take seriously someone who puts a 5" exhaust tip on a car that otherwise has 2" piping. Most of those things literally sound like a lawn mower with their funky mufflers. Four cylinders, no matter how loud they scream, will never have the authority of a V8.
That reminds me of a guy that straight-piped a '96 Ford Ranger 4-banger. Put an echo-tip on it too (not a can, but a fat tip.). I had just recently re-built a 3.5HP Briggs & Stratton on my then 15yr old lawnmower, and the two were nearly indestinguishable. He thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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and enough lights to land a 747, and then somehow convince themselves they've got a great car.
Is that enough lights to land a 747 from a 747 fuselage, or enough lights to supply a landing strip?
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And never mind that detroit iron will blow away and ricer, no matter how good, at 1/4 the cost. You can buy an old Lincoln for $1000 and have a driveline (although not a car, but there are plenty good candidates there too) you could build a 10-second car off of. I guess that's just not "cool" anymore.
No kidding. I distinctly recall my '83 Buick doing 130-140mph with more left in the pedal, doing it like it was stretching its legs. It absolutely loathed the city though. Caught its 2nd wind about 75, and never stopped after that.

And that was before I rebuilt the carburetor. Stock everything, except for new OEM shocks.
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Old 06-17-2004, 07:30 PM
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What I don't understand though, is how so many people can be so tasteless.
I'll bet that peer pressure and the whole "Everybody's doing it" factor comes into play here in a major way. I suppose that anything's possible, but I have a bit of trouble believing that that many people can be that tasteless.

Let 'em have their fun...while I blow black diesel smoke into their windows

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[b]Is that enough lights to land a 747 from a 747 fuselage, or enough lights to supply a landing strip?
Would that be LAX, O'Hare, or Heathrow?
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Old 06-17-2004, 07:46 PM
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It's cool. I guess we are not as cool driving our fast, awsome handling, German cars.

What's the thing with these little cars? I drove a 2001 Honda Civic and an 04 Jetta 1.8T; their not that nice. I remember thinking how I could buy a 500E or a nice S420 for what the Jetta cost. Frankly I thought my Camry could take the Jetta, you had to rev the piss out of it, for it to go.
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Old 06-18-2004, 12:01 AM
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I just read somewhere the impreza was at the top of the lemon list....

I love the ricers, without them, nobody would race and then lose to me. I can only beat the americans on the freeway and even then only sometimes.
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