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Old 03-30-2016, 12:07 AM
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You must be only paying full-price then?

I'm either fortunate to be a good price shopper, or take notice of buying items @ 1/2 price when on-sale. Some prices are the same as many years ago, steak included. -If you've got the savvy to buy on-sale only.

I spend $6.99 plus 8.25% on instant non-fat dried milk every couple months.

You chose two food items as examples I either don't buy, or rarely buy, regardless their price.
Since when does the gubbament food pantry cheese and powdered milk distribution facility charge anything?
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:55 AM
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Wow! Free products! A never before seen phenomenon.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:37 PM
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The greater the food supply monopoly in a given area the higher the prices. The really largest chains are trying to find out a lawful way to eliminate all competition in as many areas as they can.

Another approach Is steadily buying up their supplier chains. The only thing that could have prevented this trend is a government paying attention to the trends.

Since they have not it is more probable they will not. Overall one has to think about the quality of their countries government in relation to dealing with issues as they develop..

My guess is that one food chain by law cannot own more than fifty percent of the retail food business. One of our Canadian food chains may have hit this point.

I know they hit some point as they had to sell off or close 75 of their retail stores to swallow another large chain.. I have little to no doubt they will find a way to further increase their holdings if they have not already. Logically they should be reduced in size before it is too late to do so.

Average half decent steak price is now 13.00 a pound locally.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:59 PM
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You must be only paying full-price then?

I'm either fortunate to be a good price shopper, or take notice of buying items @ 1/2 price when on-sale. Some prices are the same as many years ago, steak included. -If you've got the savvy to buy on-sale only.

I spend $6.99 plus 8.25% on instant non-fat dried milk every couple months.

You chose two food items as examples I either don't buy, or rarely buy, regardless their price.
Food was so cheap as a percentage of earnings when we first got married. Saving a few dollars at most did not matter. Over time our buying habits changed as food started to increase in price faster than average earnings. As a percentage of earnings food was the cheapest in the world at one time for north Americans.

I would estimate the wife buys thirty percent in leader items each week in enough quantity until those items are promotional again now. I have no ideal on how much we pay for a weeks food on average.

Now buying for one person is probably even a little harder as I see little consideration by retailers for people in that circumstance. .Buying only enough food for a week is very expensive in comparison as well. We have a shelving unit in the upper basement that is always overflowing with those non perishable leader items. Both food and items like dishwasher detergent and toilet tissue etc.

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Old 03-31-2016, 05:31 PM
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Food prices are up 40-50% around here (in the last 2 years). At some point people who are actually paying for food will say, no more. Nearly 50% is on food stamps and don't notice.
I think that vast corporate ownership becomes like a monopoly. You do not really say no more. You either pay more or buy less or change your buying habits. The young will always support them as they knew no different time.

I do agree that certain segments of the food have increased by 50 percent or more in the last few years. For example the wife was out of cabbage to make coleslaw. I picked up one for her the other day. It was .99 a pound or about four dollars for the one I brought.

Chicken breasts have leaped from 1.50 a pound locally to 5.00 a pound in the last three years locally is an exceptional example. Eggs from 1.50 a dozen to 3.49-3.99 a dozen another.

Almost forget beef with even medium or regular hamburger selling at 4.99 a pound. Up from a 1.99 a pound average only two years ago. I may not shop often for the wife but even decent bread is 3.99-4.99 a loaf. These prices are in eastern Canada incidentally. I hope they make some Americans feel better.

Fortunatly we have a very large regional supplier of bread in town. So we get our bread cheap. But even they are boosting their prices. Also they closed out one of their factory outlets as their retailers where probably complaining. Of course that large factory is also owned by one of the major retailers.

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Old 03-31-2016, 07:34 PM
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I recall this every time I'm at the checkout counter.
"Nothing costs a lot"
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That train done left the station too, where you been? Corporations were the weapon of choice, individual freedom and privacy were lost. Peons and Pesos forever.
I think it started in the Reagan era, when law enforcement got the power to seize your personal property on suspicion that you might have done something wrong.
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Old 03-31-2016, 08:33 PM
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Average half decent steak price is now 13.00 a pound locally.
Last year we bought half an organic grass fed cow to put in the freezer. After buying the cow, having it butchered, and driving an hour and a half each way to pick it up... it came out to just over 6$ US a pound. 6$/lb for hamburger, 6$/lb for fillet. The initial outlay was steep but the savings were... delicious.
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Last year we bought half an organic grass fed cow to put in the freezer. After buying the cow, having it butchered, and driving an hour and a half each way to pick it up... it came out to just over 6$ US a pound. 6$/lb for hamburger, 6$/lb for fillet. The initial outlay was steep but the savings were... delicious.
Well we used to do this ourselves years ago. There is just the wife and myself now. So perhaps I will price a quarter.

I just mentioned to the wife that our 27 cubic foot freezer is almost 50 years old reciently. In constant service since we purchased it those many years ago. I really should put an alarm on it.

One we purchased for the cottage only barely lasted 1 1/2 years before breaking down And it only saw seasonal use.
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I'll start raising beef this year. Danged weaned calves are nearly $1,000 locally. Meat goats and sheep are a couple hundred. Dairy goats are $300-$500 (depending on breed and records).
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I'll start raising beef this year. Danged weaned calves are nearly $1,000 locally. Meat goats and sheep are a couple hundred. Dairy goats are $300-$500 (depending on breed and records).
Home gardens may also make a comeback in Canada. Perhaps in The United States as well. At one time they were far more common than now.
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:42 AM
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I'll start raising beef this year. Danged weaned calves are nearly $1,000 locally. Meat goats and sheep are a couple hundred. Dairy goats are $300-$500 (depending on breed and records).
Seems way high.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:57 PM
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It's all about local purchase for me. I don't have the means or desire to go a long distance to buy livestock. So local prices this season maybe high as compared to somewhere else. I have no doubt. I simply am not going somewhere else. So I pay a premium. Saves hassle and I know the seller, her family, her friends, where she attends church and my wife teaches her kids. Sometimes building community is more important than a price differential. Especially for me -- I am not going into big-time ranching. A few head to raise and cull over time.
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I have one steer ready in May and another in July. I've already taken deposits on them. Including processing they'll be around 8.50 a lb. I generally let my excess dairy bucklings go for 75-100. Papered does lots more.

Bot: You may already know this. When looking at dairy goats, insist on recent, negative whole-herd ELISA tests for Caseous Lymphadenitis (CL) and Caprine Arthritis/Encephalitis (CAE). Every good breeder knows these scourges and one who claims his herd is negative and won't produce test results is lying.
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:32 AM
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I've been having second thoughts about dairy. I sure like the goat milk but knowing that I'll be tied to a rigid schedule is daunting at this early moment in my newly emerging retirement freedom.

I was somewhat aware of the two diseases you mention. I haven't seen the actual documents but the herder I have spoken to claims he'll present papers on demand. Though there aren't many goat herders around here, there is a lot of veterinary disease awareness and increasing enforcement. Our state ag department is run by a DVM.
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