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Old 06-06-2017, 12:27 PM
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I thought we have been hunting them down since Bush in 2001. Don't tell me that long endless wars are not making things better.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:31 PM
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The S+F camp seems to have embraced the ISIS crowd in many regards, so wonder how they will fare once the ISIS crowd gets decimated?
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:37 PM
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I thought we have been hunting them down since Bush in 2001. Don't tell me that long endless wars are not making things better.
Europeans clearly refuse to fight them. They have a huge problem on their hands over there. "Run, Hide, Tell" isn't going to fix it.
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:53 PM
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The S+F camp seems to have embraced the ISIS crowd in many regards, so wonder how they will fare once the ISIS crowd gets decimated?
I am beginning to wonder if that will ever happen.

Trump said only an idiot would tell them when an assault was going to take place. Only Fools announce such things in advance.

In other news.... Forces supported by the US and championed by Trump just announced that in a few days they will begin an assault against ISIL forces in Raqqa.

Gee, I hope ISIL wasn't listening to the news that day. If they know a push is coming they will be unstoppable.

At least that's what Trump said.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:13 PM
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The S+F camp seems to have embraced the ISIS crowd in many regards, so wonder how they will fare once the ISIS crowd gets decimated?
They will not be decimated so easily, they grow back at a stunning rate.
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Old 06-06-2017, 01:19 PM
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Thanks for your service g.

Can yall imagine how things would have turned out if Sherman had been politically correct?
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Old 06-06-2017, 02:08 PM
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I have, and been able to identify the S+F crowd, and I can thank the PeachParts Open forums for assisting in that growth and maturation. Normally the dumb kids in college who are impressionable are temporarily brainwashed by the S+F professors but these kids grow out of it once they have to take on some responsibility and they get some years under their belt.

What is your excuse?
S+F crowd?

The Dubbers and Richard "Dick" Cheney had an idea to use force against bad guys in Iraq and by gawd, they done it. God only knows to what degree it ratcheted up the violence we're seeing today.

Finding and killing bad guys is real easy to talk about.
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Old 06-06-2017, 02:10 PM
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The S+F camp seems to have embraced the ISIS crowd in many regards, so wonder how they will fare once the ISIS crowd gets decimated?
No $h!t? When I get ahold of this S+F camp, Imo give 'em what for, I'll tell you what.
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S+F crowd?
Would someone care to explain this cryptic annotation?

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our energy problems for the future could be solved if we could somehow harness the hot air vented by blowhards reliably. It is self sustaining as the words of one blowhard are parroted and emphasized by internet blowhards on a daily basis.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:41 AM
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Would someone care to explain this cryptic annotation?

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I don't know either, but my best guess is its a San Francisco based railway.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:45 AM
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I thought we have been hunting them down since Bush in 2001. Don't tell me that long endless wars are not making things better.
True. And President Obama greatly expanded one tool from the military/clandestine box: drone strikes. Those have done a great service to the GWOT by targeting key command and control networks and occasionally massed fighters and their support systems. Kudos to Obama.

In my opinion, Obama should have also developed and deployed clandestine ground forces, especially Green Berets, to do the job they do best and with greatest effect. They train locals to degrade local control of territory. They do an amazing job when cut loose from control by D.C. Obama strictly constrained and directed them from the White House. This is the pattern of failure Johnson followed in Vietnam.

I am heartened that Trump gave authority directly to Maddis for the procedure on of the GWOT. Maddis seems more interested in a broader strategic approach largely leaving tactics to field commanders. That's how a war should be prosecuted.

If we can't do that or don't have the stomach for it then we should get completely out of it and let the chips fall where they may.
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:08 AM
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Would someone care to explain this cryptic annotation?

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Socialist and fascist I think.
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Old 06-07-2017, 10:14 AM
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True. And President Obama greatly expanded one tool from the military/clandestine box: drone strikes. Those have done a great service to the GWOT by targeting key command and control networks and occasionally massed fighters and their support systems. Kudos to Obama.

In my opinion, Obama should have also developed and deployed clandestine ground forces, especially Green Berets, to do the job they do best and with greatest effect. They train locals to degrade local control of territory. They do an amazing job when cut loose from control by D.C. Obama strictly constrained and directed them from the White House. This is the pattern of failure Johnson followed in Vietnam.

I am heartened that Trump gave authority directly to Maddis for the procedure on of the GWOT. Maddis seems more interested in a broader strategic approach largely leaving tactics to field commanders. That's how a war should be prosecuted.

If we can't do that or don't have the stomach for it then we should get completely out of it and let the chips fall where they may.
Do you think Israel is conducting their 'warfare' against the terrorists correctly? Serious question. I ask because it seems that they have done a fairly good job yet they have been doing it for 60 years and 7 wars but seem to be fighting the same battle. They are doing this for survival.

How would we be any more successful?
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