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Old 06-07-2017, 04:01 PM
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You kill the ones that are shooting at you. Then the ones who come to defend them, you kill them too. Thos is not difficult to understand.
Like i said, simplistic solutions lead to complex results.
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Old 06-07-2017, 05:15 PM
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Perhaps failure was the wrong choice of words. They have been fighting for 60 years and have not been successful. I do no see how our endeavor would have a different outcome. With the history of the area, I do not see how there could ever been an end game to any effort we make in the area. It's like a Möbius strip. Never ends.
My definition of victory after 9/11 was to kill everybody who planned and supported the hijackers.

By my definition we were successful nearly 100%.

Other things have since arisen. Each of them has different goals and methods appropriate to those goals.

I would never be so bold as to embrace "peace in the Middle East" as a goal. History and current events would make that impossible.

So my regional strategic goal would be to maintain the petroleum trade unimpeded by any particular regional player. This is why I believed and continue to believe that both Iraq wars were necessary. The second was only necessary because the first was incomplete. Opinions may vary.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:36 PM
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I got patriotic wood.

The US Navy’s Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG) has started strike missions from the Arabian Gulf in support of Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR) in an effort to intensify the fight against ISIS.

During operations, an F/A-18E Super Hornet assigned to the ‘Argonauts’ of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 147 was launched from the US Navy’s aircraft carrier, USS Nimitz (CVN 68).

Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 11 squadrons carried out the first flight accompanied by the ‘Black Knights’ of VFA-154, the ‘Blue Diamonds’ of VFA-146, the ‘Death Rattlers’ of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 323 and the ‘Bluetails’ of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 121.

Flight operations were also performed by other aircraft from CVW-11 that embarked on the USS Nimitz, and involved the ‘Gray Wolves’ of Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 142, the ‘Eightballers’ of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 8, the ‘Wolfpack’ of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 75 and the ‘Providers’ of Fleet Logistics Support Squadron (VRC) 30.


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Old 08-05-2017, 06:44 PM
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our energy problems for the future could be solved if we could somehow harness the hot air vented by blowhards reliably. It is self sustaining as the words of one blowhard are parroted and emphasized by internet blowhards on a daily basis.
dude, that's some Bad air, you are miscalculating which end it comes from.
As long as someone else deals with it~ methane is more useful than plain hot air.
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:07 PM
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Not long after 9/11 a well read acquaintance said "there will not be security and peace on Earth until every radicalized Muslim is dead." Hard to argue with that.
You got that right Larry !

After President Trump's "involvement" in the ME for the last 6 months, one has to wonder if BHO was really working for or against the USA and its interests ?
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Old 08-05-2017, 08:20 PM
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You got that right Larry !

After President Trump's "involvement" in the ME for the last 6 months, one has to wonder if BHO was really working for or against the USA and its interests ?
What magical thing has trump done in the middle east that only you know about?
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:21 AM
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He has deployed the Jaredobomb.
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He has deployed the Jaredobomb.
And he already gave up.
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