9/11 warning was ignored on Clintons watch

boneheaddoctor · #1 06-10-2005, 02:52 PM

CIA didn't tell FBI about 9/11 hijackers

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Twenty months before the September 11, 2001, attacks, the CIA knew but never told the FBI that two of the al Qaeda hijackers were in California, where they befriended a Saudi national who was the focus of an FBI investigation and rented a room from an FBI informant, according to a report yesterday.
The Justice Department's Office of Inspector General, in the 371-page report, documented "at least five opportunities" for the FBI to have learned about the presence in the U.S. of Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi "that could have led to an earlier investigation." The two al Qaeda terrorists helped commandeer American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon.

The unclassified but redacted report also said the "limited information" that was given by the CIA to the FBI never was documented by the bureau or placed in any system from which it could be retrieved by agents investigating terrorist threats. It said FBI supervisors lacked adequate oversight of agents assigned to work with the CIA and failed to give counterterrorism investigations priority.
"We cannot say whether the FBI would have prevented the attacks had they handled these matters differently," said Inspector General Glenn A. Fine. "Such a judgment would be speculative and beyond the scope of our inquiry."
"But ... the way the FBI handled these matters was a significant failure that hindered the FBI's chances of being able to detect and prevent the September 11 attacks."
The FBI, in a statement, said it has "undergone a transformation aimed at strengthening" its ability to predict and prevent terrorist acts and has taken "substantial steps" to address problems outlined in the report. It said most of the inspector general's recommendations have "either been completed or are well underway."
The report, whose contents have been discussed publicly but in significantly less detail, also questioned the handling by FBI supervisors of an e-mail from an agent in Phoenix, who suggested Osama bin Laden was sending al Qaeda members to flight schools in Arizona, and a memo from FBI agents in Minneapolis, who had focused on the activities of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person since indicted as a part of the September 11 conspiracy.
Information on Moussaoui was deleted because his case is pending in federal court in Alexandria.
The report said al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar traveled to San Diego after arriving in the United States in January 2000, where they met with Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi national who had been under investigation by the FBI for two years -- although the probe had been closed in June 1999. Al-Bayoumi helped them find a place to live.
The report also said the two men rented a room from an FBI informant, whose "handler" was an agent in San Diego and who remained as an FBI "asset" until the agent retired in 2002. The unidentified informant declined to be interviewed for the report.
According to the report, the FBI did not discover that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were in the United States until "shortly before the September 11 attacks," but that a follow-up investigation was done "without much urgency or priority."
It said that while FBI agents in New York wanted to pursue information they received in August 2001 that al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar were in the city, they were "specifically prohibited from doing so" by supervisors concerned about keeping criminal and intelligence investigations separate -- which the report described as "the wall."
According to the report, one frustrated agent said in an e-mail at the time: "Someday someone will die -- and wall or not -- the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems."

boneheaddoctor · #2 06-10-2005, 03:49 PM

So...you don't have to answer do you?

boneheaddoctor · #3 06-10-2005, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I recommend to all other members not to post on this thread.

And I recomend you keep to yourself....

sfloriII · #4 06-10-2005, 10:18 PM

Hey, the Times!

That's my newspaper of choice and the homepage on my computer!!

But I'm sure y'all figure that anyway.

mzsmbs · #5 06-10-2005, 10:36 PM

some of that time definately covers shrub so he was just as freaking asleep at the wheel.. get a clue.

boneheaddoctor · #6 06-10-2005, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzsmbs

some of that time definately covers shrub so he was just as freaking asleep at the wheel.. get a clue.

few months Bush was in office fighting to get Cabinet appointments approved the Democrats were blocking .....left him short of advisors......blame the dems for holding up that.......and face the fact of the most important thing....Sudan had OBL..SUDAN offered him to Bill Clinton...3 times...Clinton refused to accept him. Even after knowing he was responsible for all the terrorist attacks since he took office........

Bush was never offered him.....CLinton was..

mzsmbs · #7 06-10-2005, 10:50 PM

do you really believe that al-qaeda will just dis-appear if we get/got obl? are you serious? i suggest further research into this area...

boneheaddoctor · #8 06-10-2005, 10:59 PM

Well they will be far less relavent.....

And the fact the DNC has been trying to Blame 9/11 on Bush since it happened when odds are 99.99% it would never have happened if Bill Clinton had been more concerned on doing his job and a little less concerned about chasing plump interns.....OBL would have been in Custody and this discussion would not be taking place.

mzsmbs · #9 06-10-2005, 11:03 PM

i am pretty sure from what i have read that the 9-11 deal was in the works for a very long time.. well before Sudan, Somalia, Kenya etc..

mzsmbs · #10 06-10-2005, 11:06 PM

couldn't handle the truth on the dean thread?

boneheaddoctor · #11 06-10-2005, 11:12 PM

Dean thread as reported in MY post was accurate.....the videotape wasn't faked...and 9/11 didn't happen in "W"s second term eihter...it was less than a year into his first.....How many terrorist attacks were successfull in Clintons two terms...quite a few right.....

One happened under Bush and that happened becasue Clinton had a thing for fat women.

mzsmbs · #12 06-10-2005, 11:27 PM

under shrub terrorism errupted.. have you not seen the news? i know you've been reading the other forum.. none of it has retained?

#13 06-11-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzsmbs

under shrub terrorism errupted.. have you not seen the news? i know you've been reading the other forum.. none of it has retained?

How can you say that? under Clinton we experienced a World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole, the African Embassys I would name a couple more but it's a waste of time in your case.

Islamic Terrorism has been "erupting" since the 1960's , and I'm not blaming the bombings on Clintons watch on him either. I blame him for doing nothing about it but unlike you guys on the other forum I'm not blinded by the illusion that Bush invented terrorism.

koop · #14 06-11-2005, 08:56 AM

Well the guys who did the first WTC are in jail here in the good ol USA. If you want to talk about doing nothing, I guess we can talk about your idol Reagan too.

As for the rest of the thread, I can't comment because BHD is on ignore.

Boring

A264172 · #15 06-11-2005, 10:11 AM

I was under the impression that the 'terrorism' focused on the U.S. had started in response to U.S. troops in the holy land... stageing ground of the first gulf war.

I don't think average person in the U.S. thought much of the capabilities of the terrorists before 911.

No good reason I have heard that Clinton turned down that offer. Has he ever stated why he did not accept it?

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