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Old 03-22-2012, 11:43 PM
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So it is "Monkey see, monkey do" then?

FWIW, my parents are pretty into Christian stuff. They even waste tons of time on bible study classes. Hope I don't ever get that senile that I waste my last years on silly things like that. Hope I hang around strip joints and brothels before I lose my mind to that extant.
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:48 PM
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Patpong St. Bangkok, Thailand.
Come...I show you 'ElectricLadyland'.
Better use of my time there too than to waste it in studying about mythology. At least the Roman and Greek gods were more fun to read about. Not that fun reading makes it any more true than any of the faiths out there.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:30 AM
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Beats me, and yet on an individual basis some of the most purely spiritual and devout people I know are at least nominally Catholic. This includes several priests and one Archbishop with whom I'm either acquainted or related to. Interestingly, not a single one of them has ever faulted nor challenged my decision to leave the church.
I too know some truly fine people who are Catholic... can't fathom how they can claim affiliation with that particular sect and still be outwardly normal.
Maybe, as tonkovich suggests, it's the early life indoctrination...
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:32 AM
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Electric Larryland? great record!
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Old 03-23-2012, 04:57 AM
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Electric Larryland? great record!
Haha..the only way to listen to it is..nice and LOUD.
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I too know some truly fine people who are Catholic... can't fathom how they can claim affiliation with that particular sect and still be outwardly normal.
Maybe, as tonkovich suggests, it's the early life indoctrination...
Perhaps it is indoctrination and a lack of thinking for themselves.
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you sound like a good person aklim. If you think of god as a superstition that is for sure your business. At least it don't look like your one of those people that has a war against Christianity.

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I believe in the 1950's homosexuals were subject to electro-shock therapy in an attempt to rid them of homosexual desires. Alan Turing was chemically castrated in that same time period wasn't he? Not sure how widespread physical castration as a cure for homosexuality was in the 1950's.
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you sound like a good person aklim. If you think of god as a superstition that is for sure your business. At least it don't look like your one of those people that has a war against Christianity.

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Perhaps the war you refer to, is a result of the faith trying to meddle in the lives of the non belivers
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Perhaps the war you refer to, is a result of the faith trying to meddle in the lives of the non belivers

I don't think so, but if there is such a war I can promise you that I'm not a soldier in it. I have strong ideas about what is right and wrong and argue about them alot but I don't try to force my right and wrong on someone else.

If all the non believers would be the same way in the other direction, the more people could be happy.

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If all the non believers would be the same way in the other direction, the more people could be happy.

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So then it's OK for christians to preach to the non believers, but the non believers should just shut up and take it and wait for the missionaries to go away?

Christianity in all it's iterations is, along with Islam, unique in one respect; many of it's adherents don't believe they are being good christians unless they take up the cause of spreading the word. "Bringing people to the lord".

Responding to their preaching doesn't necessarily constitute a "war".
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Responding to their preaching doesn't necessarily constitute a "war".
Or, to use Augustine's ideas; It's a just war.
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I don't care if anybody preaches or not. if your around me you wont get preached to. if you preach your atheist hate to me I'll turn around and walk off just like you can do if sombody preaches to you.

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I don't think so, but if there is such a war I can promise you that I'm not a soldier in it. I have strong ideas about what is right and wrong and argue about them alot but I don't try to force my right and wrong on someone else.

If all the non believers would be the same way in the other direction, the more people could be happy.

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The proplem is when someone meddles by asking for laws and control that are faith based and nit need based which controls others who are not of that sad faith.
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Exactly, I don't believe it's the atheist or agnositics that are pushing state legislatures to require ultrasounds before a woman obtains a legal abortion; it's not atheists or agnostics requiring that certain subjects be taught in public schools; certainly not atheist or agnostics leading the charge against same sex marriage licenses.

What non-believer "preaching" have you been subject to lately?
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I don't care if anybody preaches or not. if your around me you wont get preached to. if you preach your atheist hate to me I'll turn around and walk off just like you can do if sombody preaches to you.

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Who's an atheist, exactly?
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