life is so much simpler when we understand that there is no god.

As for homosexuals, the more the merrier, less competition with heterosexuals for the opposite sex.

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And you know this is true, how??

Love your neighbor as you love yourself? I can't because I'm not opposite to myself so I can't love myself.

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North American Man Boy Love Association

I'm trying to figure out how a "6 yo girl" is relevant.

Both homosexuality and pederasty are viewed by Christians as perverted forms of sexuality. In short, yes. What did you think you were going to read about when the thread has such a title? Am I saying they are impossible? No. I never said that.

But I would suggest that your definition of love is quite different than mine.So are we just going to attack Christianity now? Are my beliefs not valid to be held? Which is exactly why you don't agree.

Seriously though, even devils believe in God (...and shudder). It doesn't make them any less evil.

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so based on this logic, someone who loves a pet is actually acting out of lust?

Continuing with that logic, a female parent who loves their children, is only really loving the male child, and acts out of lust for the female child?

ridiculous sir. come now

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Am I going to be obligated to answer every single one of your rabbit trails?

Or are you going to admit you can't understand the debate? You seem to be replying out of frustration.

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Yes, your argument is absurd.

You ignore the presuppositions, you deny the worldview yet you still want your voice to be considered valid?

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incorrect.

i did just that many times when I could not go out on dates.

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I'm aware of what NAMBLA is. What I don't see is what NAMBLA has to do with being homosexual. I can be homosexual and not be interested in kids. I can be heterosexual and interested in pre-pubescent girls.

Please, go on and elaborate. Besides the "Because I am your mother" approach, what is the reason? As long as the other person is able to give consent and willing, where is the issue?

Yours seems to be within the confines of some book.

I'm simply asking for some sort of proof that isn't based on vague signs that can be interpreted any way the viewer says it is.

So what exactly is your point? That if you understand you must agree?

We haven't proved either side is even there. Have you seen the devil? I haven't.

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uhhh, what I did was take your stated remark, and apply the logic of that remark to a variety of real world situations. The concept that love between same sex people is impossible, is totally absurd.

Love is far more complex than that. People are capable of loving inanimate objects, who are you to state that two homosexual individuals do not or cannot have love for each other?

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Add 'absurdist' to list of selfish, blasphemer and heretic as a useful word for avoiding engagement with people who hold different points of view.

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for example, this man is very sick, but I cannot deny that he actually seems to love his monte carlo. To make it even more to the point, hes given the vehicle a male personality to love. Not only is it a love affair with an inanimate object, but its homosexual love on top of that.

Check Out This Guy's Obsession With His Car From "My Strange Addiction"

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It was a comparison to another perverse form of sexuality. Christian belief. That is the issue. That is what this thread is titled isn't it? Yes, a collection of books specifically. Um... a city was destroyed for homosexual behavior, it was declared an abomination before God (several times), declared a sin, declared unnatural and something to be avoided.

Can it get much clearer? We don't agree because we have different presuppositions withint differing and incompatable worldviews.

Remember this thread was specifically about CHRISTIANITY right?I suggest you start another thread if you want that conversation.

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... in your worldview. I am a Christian. I am a believer in the one true and living God YHWH. My worldview is biblically based, meaning I believe what all of the Bible says.

It's not as though that would make any difference in you trying to label me as a type of bigot.

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so you deny that people can love their pets, and that a mother can love her children? Because thats what I said.

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Hmmmm, wasn't it you that started this entire thread?

Let me put this in perspective, you decided to talk about someone else's beliefs in the context of homosexuality. Then you decide to deride and belittle a person who actually holds to that faith.

...and all along you ignore what words actually mean. I am precise in my speech for a reason. I didn't call you any of those things and I would wish you would be honest enough to admit that.

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