Business Insider Article on S Truett Cathy

retmil46 · #1 08-05-2012, 03:17 AM

As much as the man who founded CFA and his son Dan - who made the comments which generated all the uproar - have been cussed and discussed of late, I was curious and wanted to learn more about the man and his company.

There's links inside the article to another piece covering the comments made by Dan.

Meet Chick-fil-A Founder S. Truett Cathy - Business Insider

At the bottom of the page there's a link to another article, concerning 17 large companies that have deep religious themes as part of their management.

17 Big Companies That Are Intensely Religious - Business Insider

I hate to say it, but it looks like david's list of companies to be avoided is going to get considerably longer.

E150GT · #2 08-05-2012, 03:31 AM

whos david and what list? you saying to avoid religious companies?

retmil46 · #3 08-05-2012, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by E150GT

whos david and what list? you saying to avoid religious companies?

Giving a Little Support to Chick-fil-A Today

Round about post # 153 and afterwards - should explain what my comment was about. He had also earlier announced his intention to no longer patronize In n Out Burgers - one of the companies mentioned in the second article - because they had taken to printing bible verses on their packaging.

As to your second question - I'm not advocating either way, that people should patronize or avoid, these businesses. Purely throwing these articles out there for info purposes. Given all the hyperbole and angst swirling around Chick-fil-A, Dan Cathy's comments, etc, the past few days, I thought some background info on the subject might help put things in context.

cmbdiesel · #4 08-05-2012, 10:41 AM

You sure seem interested in where other people spend their money.

Personally, I applaud people who spend deliberately. There's too many WalMartians in this country already.

jplinville · #5 08-05-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

You sure seem interested in where other people spend their money.

Personally, I applaud people who spend deliberately. There's too many WalMartians in this country already.

I agree. It's my money and I'll spend it where I want, within my moral belief and code.

What does it matter what everyone else thinks of how and where I spend my money?

The boycott, which has so far been a failure, actually tries to force others to believe what they believe, and if you disagree, they label you as a gay-basher. This aspect of the boycott does nothing for their side of the argument.

cullennewsom · #6 08-05-2012, 03:29 PM

that article is practically a commercial advertisement for CFA.

E150GT · #7 08-05-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

Giving a Little Support to Chick-fil-A Today

Round about post # 153 and afterwards - should explain what my comment was about. He had also earlier announced his intention to no longer patronize In n Out Burgers - one of the companies mentioned in the second article - because they had taken to printing bible verses on their packaging.

As to your second question - I'm not advocating either way, that people should patronize or avoid, these businesses. Purely throwing these articles out there for info purposes. Given all the hyperbole and angst swirling around Chick-fil-A, Dan Cathy's comments, etc, the past few days, I thought some background info on the subject might help put things in context.

I see. I do like to support religious companies if I need their products. I also liek to support companies that are small too. I generally don't put too much thought in a companies political or religious beliefs. I think good service and products are the main reason why I would support a company. I think if Discount Tire came out and said they were for Obama, I would still buy from them because they have good prices and have always been excellent in service. I feel like they want my business. I shop at walmart for things I need that arent too important like an iron. Yeah its cheap and I rarely use it so thats where I get it from.

Jorn · #8 08-05-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

I agree. It's my money and I'll spend it where I want, within my moral belief and code.

What does it matter what everyone else thinks of how and where I spend my money?

The boycott, which has so far been a failure, actually tries to force others to believe what they believe, and if you disagree, they label you as a gay-basher. This aspect of the boycott does nothing for their side of the argument.

Lets look at the numbers. Again the general population is split about this issue 50/50 more or less, but if you look at younger people it's 30/70 in favor of gay marriage and equality and I'm sure in urban areas that percentage is higher. This CEO alienated 70% of future customers, good job. Just as mixed racial marriages same couple marriages will be a normal thing for future generations to come.

I don't have much principles but this company won't see a penny from me. If there is one thing I hate it's intolerance.

retmil46 · #9 08-05-2012, 04:13 PM

For those that haven't had a chance to see it, here's the letter from the Mayor of Boston to CFA -

Read The Letter That The Mayor Of Boston Sent To Chick-Fil-A - Business Insider

retmil46 · #10 08-05-2012, 05:19 PM

Here's the BI article on Dan Cathy's comments -

Chick-Fil-A Admits It's Against Gay Marriage - Business Insider

Here's the interview with the Baptist Press that helped start the controversy -

Baptist Press - 'Guilty as charged,' Cathy says of Chick-fil-A's stand on biblical & family values - News with a Christian Perspective

jplinville · #11 08-05-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Lets look at the numbers. Again the general population is split about this issue 50/50 more or less, but if you look at younger people it's 30/70 in favor of gay marriage and equality and I'm sure in urban areas that percentage is higher. This CEO alienated 70% of future customers, good job. Just as mixed racial marriages same couple marriages will be a normal thing for future generations to come.

I don't have much principles but this company won't see a penny from me. If there is one thing I hate it's intolerance.

To be honest, the Left is about the most intolerant party there is. If you don't agree with them, or say something they dislike, as in the case of Cathy, they'll do everything they can to destroy you.

Yeah...the party of tolerance.

I, on the other hand, have no tolerance for stupidity, and that's what this boycott was centered around...one group's stupidly thinking they can change the way others think.

Jorn · #12 08-05-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

To be honest, the Left is about the most intolerant party there is. If you don't agree with them, or say something they dislike, as in the case of Cathy, they'll do everything they can to destroy you.

Yeah...the party of tolerance.

I, on the other hand, have no tolerance for stupidity, and that's what this boycott was centered around...one group's stupidly thinking they can change the way others think.

Just as the right, the left is no party: your right is not my right. Can you tell me what is stupid about boycotting a business that uses their profits against your (in this case gays) interest?

It would be stupidity if they would bring their money to this place. That's freedom of choice and it's also their freedom and right to express that choice; just as it is the CEO's freedom and right to express his believes.

tbomachines · #13 08-05-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

To be honest, the ______ is about the most intolerant party there is. If you don't agree with them, or say something they dislike, as in the case of _______, they'll do everything they can to destroy you.

Yeah...the party of tolerance.

Generic political statement is generic.

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I, on the other hand, have no tolerance for stupidity, and that's what this boycott was centered around...one group's stupidly thinking they can change the way others think.

How is it stupid? Einsteins quote for stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If gay rights advocates keep throwing their money at CFA, who is stupid in this case? Changing the way others think or bringing light to the fact that the CEO has made particular statements that they find offensive?

I don't see anything from the opposite side other than the arguments (in summary) "I hate liberals", "those gay people sure are stupid", "this boycott is different than other boycotts because I simply disagree with the stance of those protesting and support the views of the CEO"...and of course the reaction from us moderates is a resounding "WGAS why do you care where people spend their money?" which, has not been answered by those with their undies in a bunch over it.

davidmash · #14 08-05-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

As much as the man who founded CFA and his son Dan - who made the comments which generated all the uproar - have been cussed and discussed of late, I was curious and wanted to learn more about the man and his company.

There's links inside the article to another piece covering the comments made by Dan.

Meet Chick-fil-A Founder S. Truett Cathy - Business Insider

At the bottom of the page there's a link to another article, concerning 17 large companies that have deep religious themes as part of their management.

17 Big Companies That Are Intensely Religious - Business Insider

I hate to say it, but it looks like david's list of companies to be avoided is going to get considerably longer.

I am lessconcerned about who owns a company than i.am.about their practices. The companies I.mentioned have taken measures that i disagree with. Just because a company is.owned by someone who is Christian does not mean I will not shop there. If they come out against a certain group or try and shove their beliefs on me than they will lose my business.

davidmash · #15 08-05-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

To be honest, the Left is about the most intolerant party there is. If you don't agree with them, or say something they dislike, as in the case of Cathy, they'll do everything they can to destroy you.

Yeah...the party of tolerance.

I, on the other hand, have no tolerance for stupidity, and that's what this boycott was centered around...one group's stupidly thinking they can change the way others think.

So the protest against JC Penny was an act of right wing tolerance? The protest against the Dixie Chicks was also an act of right wing tolerance? How's the air up there on that horse?

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