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Old 05-31-2001, 09:49 AM
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The 500E's scheduled to be brought to the shop this weekend for the first of many (mostly reversible) mods. The car's going in for a facelift with a new hood, grille, euro spec headlamps, corner lenses and tail lights. The euro-spec oil cooler should arrive in time to be installed as well.

Soon after, I should be installing a RENNTech ASR defeat switch then followed by a 1st gear start mod (thinking of going with Satish's) and a RENNTech sway bar.

Have some questions for those of you with the ASR defeat mod...

1. What exactly comes with the kit, what are its components?

2. How involved is the install?

3. Is it fully reversible or will any wires have to be cut?

4. How exactly does it work/function? I take it it's not just a simple on off switch.

5. Other than terribly shortening the life of rear tires and potentially the differential (especially when having too much fun with the vehicle), any downside I've overlooked?

6. Any problems you guys have encountered with these?

Feedback is most appreciated.

Many thanks...




[Edited by rainmaker on 05-31-2001 at 09:55 AM]

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Old 05-31-2001, 11:58 AM
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I'm envious!! Actually I'd like to do the '94 update also... I have a couple of prying questions... I'm assuming the dealer is where I'd go for the hood/grill/trunk lid/etc... As far as euro-spec headlamps and oil cooler, these are obtainable through the dealer also? Are you going to have the entire car painted or just the new parts? Now, to be completely nosey, care to share the approximate/ballpark cost of doing the '94 conversion for someone considering it?

good luck and be sure to post pictures.
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Old 05-31-2001, 12:21 PM
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Mark,

I got the OEM parts from my dealer:

94/95 Hood*, $405.00
94/95 Hood Grille*, $189.72
Hood Ornament*, $15.84
Clear Corner Lenses*, pair, $59.42
Euro-spec head lamps, pair, $210.00 (est.)
Red/Clear Tail Light Assembly*, pair, $274.56
Oil Cooler, $325 (est.)
Euro headlamp wiper assembly, pair, $300 (est.)

Prices marked with asterisks (*) are in dealer's inventory and are new old stock and therefore artificially cheap (in dollar terms) due to the spate of currency devaluations the past few years. Prices with estimates have to be flown in (I live in Asia), airfreight for dealer's account.

Prices exclude paint and labor, which I haven't been quoted yet...but I assume they shouldn't go beyond $500 total.

Hopefully, only the hood will have to be painted and the dealer can match the paint perfectly.

Should be done by this time next week if all the parts arrive. Will post pics as soon as its finished.

You might want to try the Parts Shop for your requirements. Their prices are very reasonable but air (instant gratification!) freight would've killed me. I'll try em for smaller parts.

Hope that helps...
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94 Facelift
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97 Range Rover 4.6 HSE Vitesse, Yellow, "Tonka" (sold)
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Old 05-31-2001, 02:44 PM
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I just added a PAD switch to my 500E. I am sure they are on the same lines. We took out the rear light and put the switch in that slot. The switch comes with a ugly looking switch (maybe Renntech will be different) so I took a defeat switch from a late model S-class instead.

From what I can tell the ASR switch activates the "snowchains" bypass (the snowchain light is always on) of the ASR circuit, so that instead of there allowing wheel spin up to 10mph (or whatever the speed is), it allows wheelspin throughout the speed range. There is definitely wires that are cut in the process, and another thing, it completely wipes out all the fault codes in the computer.

As far as wheelspin, there is a lot (even with 275/40 Pilot Sports), but she hooks up strong and just takes off! I have not had chance to check with the g-tech, but she feels faster.

Be careful of hitting the rev. limiter on slippery roads, as one wheel will really spin.

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Old 06-01-2001, 01:37 PM
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500E "facelift" pictures

For those who have not seen my pictures, please visit:

http://www.nemonis.net/index.html

I have welded over my hood's star emblem and my rear quarter-panle's antenna-hole, in addition to inverting my windshield washer squirters so that my hood is 100% clean (no bumps).

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Old 06-05-2001, 03:01 PM
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Straight from the horses mouth...

Just got word from Bob at Renntech that this is going to be a 5 hour job. For my application (i.e. it doesn't snow in the tropics), I would just have to remove the snow chain switch from the dash (without cutting any wires) and zip tie it behind the panel. The ASR switch is then installed in the hole left by the snow chain switch.

I'm going ahead with this purchase and will be on my way to toasting my diff!

As far as the first gear start mod is concerned, RENNTech actually requires you to replace the valve body while Satish's version is more of an electronic switch which more or less mimics engaging the all the way down to B in order to induce 1st gear start.

I'm still interested in hearing from those who've tried these mods...

Many thanks...

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RennTech ASR Defeat
RennTech Chip
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97 Range Rover 4.6 HSE Vitesse, Yellow, "Tonka" (sold)
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Old 06-15-2001, 10:05 AM
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1st gear start on 500E/E500, and SL V8

Hello,

Just installed an electronic 1st gear start on a 1992 500SL yesterday with a cutoff switch (defeat for 2nd gear start) in the ashtray. Car runs GREAT!! Completely like factory stock. I would REALLY recommend this over the valve body modification (which I've done in another 1992 500SL which at times overrevs the 2-3 shift now).

Nice to have a selectable 2nd gear/1st gear takeoff option; not to mention, stay away from tinkering with the hydraulics of the valve body.

PS - if Bob Brady has any questions, have him give me a call at: (248) 737-4229. I've already had the Brabus guys calling...

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Satish
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Old 06-22-2001, 02:16 AM
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...and another thing, it completely wipes out all the fault codes in the computer.

David,

What exactly do you mean by this?

I received the ASR switch a several days ago and might be putting it on this week (waiting for some other parts for the car). Anyway, does this mean it resets the existing fault codes if there are any stored in memory or does it mean the vehicle would henceforth be unable to give you fault codes?

Scott,

Any input here since you've installed your ASR switch already?

Thanks...
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93 500E, 43k mi, Pics of upgrade parts
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RennTech Chip
1st Gear Start
97 Range Rover 4.6 HSE Vitesse, Yellow, "Tonka" (sold)
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Old 06-22-2001, 11:16 AM
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Just make sure you read the fault codes before you install, as it wipes out all the old codes. You can still read the codes in the future.
Any thoughts? Yeah, smoke those tires baby!

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Old 06-22-2001, 11:23 AM
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Any thoughts? Yeah, smoke those tires baby!

Hell yeah! That's one request that would be easy to accomodate in the land of no (enforced) speed limits!
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RennTech Chip
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Old 06-22-2001, 01:18 PM
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Gentlemen:

You have motivated me to excuse myself from my cube, step outside to the parking lot, drive to the nearest freeway onramp, and launch (from a 20-foot burnout)...

"Roger that. ASR is functional. We have liftoff..."



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Old 06-22-2001, 01:40 PM
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What is the next upgrade Guy's?

A beefier differential? You don't want to smoke the original unit from all these single tire burnouts.

BTW, who was the longest burnout going?
When I did the temporary ABS disable and had, "ASR defeat" in effect, I was able to get a great 50+ ft black mark on my deserted testing road.

[Edited by roas on 06-22-2001 at 01:44 PM]
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Old 06-22-2001, 01:47 PM
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Hey Scott, I'd like to see the exterior mods on your 500E sometime and maybe be privied to a monster burnout sometime.... maybe snap a pic or two for entertainment value too. I'm located in SF....

...although my E500 is not set up with mods like yours, I'm finding it nearly impossible to restrain myself to mature sessions behind the wheel as well...read: unlike a stereotypical adrenaline addicted teenager with a potent new toy 5.0 Mustang/SS Camaro/Corvette etc....!

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Old 06-22-2001, 01:57 PM
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Amen

Tell me about it, FAD... I'm more than a bit amazed, myself, that:

- my license hasn't been revoked, yet
- I haven't received a moving violation citiation in almost 2 years
- I haven't died in a fiery crash

You're welcome to click some pics, anytime.
Please e-mail me, directly, at least 24 hours in advance
(nemo@nemonis.net).

With fingers crossed for my continued luck,
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Old 06-22-2001, 02:13 PM
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Great and thanks! Look forward to meeting you.

The next two weeks are pretty tight on the work and social calendar on my side, so let's target after that?

Maybe we'll be able to break away from the female types for a cup of early morning Java (read: uncrowded roads).

And,,,amazing that you've had such luck from law enforcement (you must $$ support the CHP and policeman's ball, or be related to a law enforcement officer?)

...in either case where can one get some type of a cloaking device ...50% V1 other half radar scrambler? This idea is waiting for invention and marketing to make someone rich...it can also offer options like integrated garage door opener, remote locks, and all the LEDs/ bells and whistles current technology will afford...


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