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Turbo E320 · #91 07-15-2008, 12:15 PM

I know your a die hard mercedes man RBYCC but i think you and pumpish are both right in the same respects. K-jet can work well with a turbo like you said but when its 20 years old with hundreds of thousands of miles on it, it will be much more prone to failure.

Also on the performance end.....Have you seen roman's videos?

That blue devil of a mercedes is absolutely insane! Id think it could give a new e55 a run for its money. If you want a DIY vs Production turbo race, ill be up in pennsylvania once my car is done to test its long run capability and meet up with my long time buddies at Lincoln Tech. Maybe we could meet at a drag strip inbetween us? My car is more setup for the twisties but im sure i can hold the wheel straight

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PUMPISH · #92 07-15-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

With all due respect to your accomplishments, I must beg to differ with you...

There are hundreds of TT and Mosselman installs that have been reliable and in service for over twenty years.
Cars now that have over 175K miles on them.
None with problems...
Why, because the installs were done with knowledge of the KE-Jet and tuned and mapped on a dyno.

Nothing wrong with KE-Jet if you take the time to understand it...same with HFM.

My TT setup only puts out a paltry 195HP on a Mustang dyno, but I would go head to head against any of your claimed 400HP + high boost M103.

With an automatic transmission and a 3.07 rear gear I run 0-60MPh in the low fives and with zero traction due to cold weather I recorded a 14.3 1/4 @ 99MPH...
Change the rear gear and I'm 0-60 in the high fours and the quarter in the low thirteens.

Traction and I run mid 13's and 103 and still get 20-23 MPG on the highway with 19 MPG in city driving.

Let's see some of your time slips so everyone can compare how much controllable power you get to the ground.
What is your mean time betwewn engine failure ?

Don't knock what people like Willy Mosselman and TurboTechnics who have far superior knowledge then anyone on these forums achieved with something like the KE-Jet that you couldn't conquer...

They did it and in fact the TT installs done by Hughes of Beaconsfield on new delivery cars in the early nineties came with a full twelve month factory warranty.

I'm not a kid, I was there when these kits were new....in fact my 1988 300CE M103-12V was purchased new by me in May of 1988.

Comman man I dont care even i you are 100 years old and have a good knowledge about K-jet.

I have been working with cars only 3 years and even I did not know how to change oil in the car for 3 years agow I know what I am talking about today becaurse today I am workning with SA and turbochangering day and night

And I dont knock mosselman and turbonetics but sorry this 20 years old stuff. I belive that mosselman works pretty good with m104 LH-jet but sorry I have seen too many broken gaskets and stuff with a M103 mosselman and turbonetics.

Why it comes so many of those mosselman and turbotechnics clients and wants SA???

I dont wanna knock yoy eather but sorry you have to learn something about SA before you compare it with K-jet.

To compare K-jet with a SA is like to compare hotdog with a fillet of beef.
With other words it is modern stuff and works much better.

I choose easyly Carburetor instead K-jet if I must choose....

Why all professional tuners in the world uses SA???

You talking about 13 seconds for 1/4?
Our slowest car we tuned in our workshop goes faster then that.

Most of the cars we tuned goes faster them 12 and several of then 10sec
BMW, Audi, Opel, Supra...and all those cars driving everyday.

Here you can see 190 turbo goes 10,27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXRcRVOSCY

Our Volvo 240 680Hp) goes 10,80

Our Audi TQ goes 11,50

Here is E30 Turbo goes 9,89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_T2Uz1ml4

All those cars uses everyday and ofcaurse has a SA!

And I forgot the impotent part.
With my 1000cc injectors and no catalisator I stil get better exhaust values then a modern car with a catalisator.

Last inspection I had at idling:
Lambda: 1,03
CO: 0,00
HC: 12

I hope you understand my meaning why I recomend SA

JayRash · #93 07-15-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

Great solution....

If you want you know have a piece that you could install additional injectors.

Same install as the cast aluminumpiece that I use.

thank you,

Didnt really get what u mean, are you talking about me fitting extra injectors in a fiber cast like the one i made, or do you have an extra part like the one in your pic?????

if u have the part, how much do you want for it?????
cause it will be the best option still, i know it as much as you do

RBYCC · #94 07-15-2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUMPISH

Comman man I dont care even i you are 100 years old and have a good knowledge about K-jet.

I have been working with cars only 3 years and even I did not know how to change oil in the car for 3 years agow I know what I am talking about today becaurse today I am workning with SA and turbochangering day and night

And I dont knock mosselman and turbonetics but sorry this 20 years old stuff. I belive that mosselman works pretty good with m104 LH-jet but sorry I have seen too many broken gaskets and stuff with a M103 mosselman and turbonetics.

Why it comes so many of those mosselman and turbotechnics clients and wants SA???

I dont wanna knock yoy eather but sorry you have to learn something about SA before you compare it with K-jet.

To compare K-jet with a SA is like to compare hotdog with a fillet of beef.
With other words it is modern stuff and works much better.

I choose easyly Carburetor instead K-jet if I must choose....

Why all professional tuners in the world uses SA???

You talking about 13 seconds for 1/4?
Our slowest car we tuned in our workshop goes faster then that.

Most of the cars we tuned goes faster them 12 and several of then 10sec
BMW, Audi, Opel, Supra...and all those cars driving everyday.

Here you can see 190 turbo goes 10,27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOXRcRVOSCY

Our Volvo 240 680Hp) goes 10,80

Our Audi TQ goes 11,50

Here is E30 Turbo goes 9,89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic_T2Uz1ml4

All those cars uses everyday and ofcaurse has a SA!

And I forgot the impotent part.
With my 1000cc injectors and no catalisator I stil get better exhaust values then a modern car with a catalisator.

Last inspection I had at idling:
Lambda: 1,03
CO: 0,00
HC: 12

I hope you understand my meaning why I recomend SA

With three years experience you have a great deal to learn....
How many of your installs will be running trouble free in twenty years ??

The real tuners from Mosselman to Turbotechnics to many others in the period have proof via twenty years of emprical data.

Please post your dyno charts along with your 1/4 mile ET slips so one can see what power you are really producing.

The E30 based on your 1/4 mile numbers is aroind 600RWP assuming 2800-3000 lb weight.

The Audi around 429 RWP...
What do your dyno numbers indicate on the above cars ?

Wasn't it you that was claiming 700-800HP from your own M103, trying to break 200mph on the street ????

Not knocking you, but just showing you that because you couldn't figure out how to get power from a K-Jet, doesn't mean others can't...especially in keeping value in the vehicle with a true period conversion.

RBYCC · #95 07-15-2008, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayRash

thank you,

Didnt really get what u mean, are you talking about me fitting extra injectors in a fiber cast like the one i made, or do you have an extra part like the one in your pic?????

if u have the part, how much do you want for it?????
cause it will be the best option still, i know it as much as you do

You could install the additional injectors in your fabricated fiberglass part.
A bit of drilling and glassing in the injector holder should work.

The part I showed is where my two additional injectors are mounted, currently installed on the car.

This is the optimum area for additional injectors as it is above the throttle valve.

PUMPISH · #96 07-15-2008, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

With three years experience you have a great deal to learn....
How many of your installs will be running trouble free in twenty years ??

The real tuners from Mosselman to Turbotechnics to many others in the period have proof via twenty years of emprical data.

Please post your dyno charts along with your 1/4 mile ET slips so one can see what power you are really producing.

The E30 based on your 1/4 mile numbers is aroind 600RWP assuming 2800-3000 lb weight.

The Audi around 429 RWP...
What do your dyno numbers indicate on the above cars ?

Wasn't it you that was claiming 700-800HP from your own M103, trying to break 200mph on the street ????

Not knocking you, but just showing you that because you couldn't figure out how to get power from a K-Jet, doesn't mean others can't...especially in keeping value in the vehicle with a true period conversion.

Are you serios? 20 years with Turbo+K-jet???

Do you mean maybe a week?
Why I get those clients all the time with mosselman and want instal EFI standalone???

So now you saying that K-jet is more relieble then EFI with Turbo?
What a crap!

So do you mean that even Mercedes benz are idiots that stopped producing K-jet and stared with EFI???

Comman man!

EFI is better on every way, more economic (drinking much less gas) and more reliable.

So thats why every (good) proffesional tuner use EFI. For reliability!

With SA EFI I have full control over the engine.
I can see/control water temp, Air intake temp, how injectors working.
Wideband lambda sesning
Knocksensing, every time it comes spiking it retard ingition and I can see when its spiking.
If the ingine getting hot it retarding ignition too and I can choose when and how
Overboost control, so if something happes with a wastegate its just cutting boost when I want. I can even choose the curve of the boost, different RPM, pressure and gears.
I can run alcohol or other types of gas.
It is many other good funktion for safety and reliablity.

So you have no ide what you talking about when you compare K-jet with modern EFI system.

And waht about the intake air leak???
K-jet has millions of vacum hoses and stuff that just blowing away by boost and most places you can not even see then or reach them.

With EFI I have only 4 places with silicone hose: Turbo, 2pcs intercooler and Throttle body.

And economic and reliability we dont even need to discuss.

No ide to discuss with you becaurse you just got stuck on 80s and refuse to realize that it is exist many new modern stuff what does much better

This is my last discussion with you about tuning otherwise I can talk with my saucepan and geting the same respons

BUT you are welcome to sweden to see and feel some fast cars.

About the cars I mentioned:

E30: 999Hp on the rear wheels and 1129Hk on the crank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0fxZE50w
Audi: 610Hp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuRoylVAhIY

JayRash · #97 07-16-2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUMPISH

Are you serios? 20 years with Turbo+K-jet???

Do you mean maybe a week?
Why I get those clients all the time with mosselman and want instal EFI standalone???

So now you saying that K-jet is more relieble then EFI with Turbo?
What a crap!

So do you mean that even Mercedes benz are idiots that stopped producing K-jet and stared with EFI???

Comman man!

EFI is better on every way, more economic (drinking much less gas) and more reliable.

So thats why every (good) proffesional tuner use EFI. For reliability!

With SA EFI I have full control over the engine.
I can see/control water temp, Air intake temp, how injectors working.
Wideband lambda sesning
Knocksensing, every time it comes spiking it retard ingition and I can see when its spiking.
If the ingine getting hot it retarding ignition too and I can choose when and how
Overboost control, so if something happes with a wastegate its just cutting boost when I want. I can even choose the curve of the boost, different RPM, pressure and gears.
I can run alcohol or other types of gas.
It is many other good funktion for safety and reliablity.

So you have no ide what you talking about when you compare K-jet with modern EFI system.

And waht about the intake air leak???
K-jet has millions of vacum hoses and stuff that just blowing away by boost and most places you can not even see then or reach them.

With EFI I have only 4 places with silicone hose: Turbo, 2pcs intercooler and Throttle body.

And economic and reliability we dont even need to discuss.

No ide to discuss with you becaurse you just got stuck on 80s and refuse to realize that it is exist many new modern stuff what does much better

This is my last discussion with you about tuning otherwise I can talk with my saucepan and geting the same respons

BUT you are welcome to sweden to see and feel some fast cars.

About the cars I mentioned:

E30: 999Hp on the rear wheels and 1129Hk on the crank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0fxZE50w
Audi: 610Hp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuRoylVAhIY

atleast 310 hp on flywheel, and that is down right perfect, his car will never break, gearbox is still in its capable range, dive shafts, diff, brakes and many other stuff are still stock and will live with 300+ hp. Make 400hp and almost all need upgrading.
It is true that SA will be the more efficient system, but the call for it on our power range is not needed.
Its nice to know though who to turn to when SA is needed.

RBYCC · #98 07-16-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo E320

I know your a die hard mercedes man RBYCC but i think you and pumpish are both right in the same respects. K-jet can work well with a turbo like you said but when its 20 years old with hundreds of thousands of miles on it, it will be much more prone to failure.

Also on the performance end.....Have you seen roman's videos?

That blue devil of a mercedes is absolutely insane! Id think it could give a new e55 a run for its money. If you want a DIY vs Production turbo race, ill be up in pennsylvania once my car is done to test its long run capability and meet up with my long time buddies at Lincoln Tech. Maybe we could meet at a drag strip inbetween us? My car is more setup for the twisties but im sure i can hold the wheel straight

.

You indicate "Jeffersonville" as your location....outside of Norristown?

If so I lived there for a few years in the mid seventies...

I was born and raised in West Philadelphia, lived in Bryn Mawr for almost thirty years and semi-retired to Rehoboth Beach in 2003.

Many , many years ago there was a a teacher there that was truly a top tuner...I bought my max performance SS/BA hemi from a friend of his in Willow Grove.

RBYCC · #99 07-16-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Are you serios? 20 years with Turbo+K-jet???

Do you mean maybe a week?
Why I get those clients all the time with mosselman and want instal EFI standalone???

You've been involved with cars by your own admission for three years.
Obvious that you are ignorant of anything prior to 2005.

Do some research, see what is still running after twenty years..how about a 6.0L 32V AMG W124..still around and still using old injection system...
Probably worth more then all of your cars put together !!!

Quote:

So now you saying that K-jet is more relieble then EFI with Turbo?
What a crap!

So do you mean that even Mercedes benz are idiots that stopped producing K-jet and stared with EFI???

You really don't make much sense....
The M103 was designed for the K-Jet and all the boosted versions that yes are still running after twenty years worked extremely reliable with the K-Jet

Quote:

Comman man!

Common man...yes I'm a very common man.
Unlike you my ego isn't so huge that I negate anything that I can't comprehend.

I probably understand fuel systems from carbs be they Holley, SU's or Weber 45DCOE's...better then you do.
Very familiar with even the original fuel injection systems that were introduced in the fifties..

I might be a "common man" but your the typical "one trick pony"...

Quote:

EFI is better on every way, more economic (drinking much less gas) and more reliable.

So thats why every (good) proffesional tuner use EFI. For reliability!

With SA EFI I have full control over the engine.
I can see/control water temp, Air intake temp, how injectors working.
Wideband lambda sesning
Knocksensing, every time it comes spiking it retard ingition and I can see when its spiking.
If the ingine getting hot it retarding ignition too and I can choose when and how
Overboost control, so if something happes with a wastegate its just cutting boost when I want. I can even choose the curve of the boost, different RPM, pressure and gears.
I can run alcohol or other types of gas.
It is many other good funktion for safety and reliablity.

So you have no ide what you talking about when you compare K-jet with modern EFI system.

You can see all these things so why did you smoke your own engine...faulty workmanship or just reckless when you saw it fail and ran it to the ground ?
Not very mature...

Quote:

And waht about the intake air leak???
K-jet has millions of vacum hoses and stuff that just blowing away by boost and most places you can not even see then or reach them.

With EFI I have only 4 places with silicone hose: Turbo, 2pcs intercooler and Throttle body.

And economic and reliability we dont even need to discuss.

No ide to discuss with you becaurse you just got stuck on 80s and refuse to realize that it is exist many new modern stuff what does much better

This is my last discussion with you about tuning otherwise I can talk with my saucepan and geting the same respons

BUT you are welcome to sweden to see and feel some fast cars.

About the cars I mentioned:

E30: 999Hp on the rear wheels and 1129Hk on the crank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJr0fxZE50w

IS THAT THE SAME E30 THAT RAN 9.89 @ 144 MPH ????

If it is then you better give him his money back because with 999HP he should be running 7.9 in the 1/4...

How do you explain how he's running like he has 300 less horsepower ????

PUMPISH · #**100** 07-16-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

You've been involved with cars by your own admission for three years.
Obvious that you are ignorant of anything prior to 2005.

Do some research, see what is still running after twenty years..how about a 6.0L 32V AMG W124..still around and still using old injection system...
Probably worth more then all of your cars put together !!!

You really don't make much sense....
The M103 was designed for the K-Jet and all the boosted versions that yes are still running after twenty years worked extremely reliable with the K-Jet

Common man...yes I'm a very common man.
Unlike you my ego isn't so huge that I negate anything that I can't comprehend.

I probably understand fuel systems from carbs be they Holley, SU's or Weber 45DCOE's...better then you do.
Very familiar with even the original fuel injection systems that were introduced in the fifties..

I might be a "common man" but your the typical "one trick pony"...

You can see all these things so why did you smoke your own engine...faulty workmanship or just reckless when you saw it fail and ran it to the ground ?
Not very mature...

IS THAT THE SAME E30 THAT RAN 9.89 @ 144 MPH ????

If it is then you better give him his money back because with 999HP he should be running 7.9 in the 1/4...

How do you explain how he's running like he has 300 less horsepower ????

Hi Mr.comman man. Why are you using (bold) text are you angry?

By the way do you have turbo on your AMG 6,0? Becaurse if you can realy read so you should see that I sad I did not belive on K-jet with Turbo for 20 years and I never sad the K-jet does not work with a stock ingine without turbo.

If you think that E30 Turbo runs 9sec with 999Hp and it is very bad then tell me what 1000hp streetcar by 1300kr weight running 7 sec in the 1/4?

And any street car 700hp and 1300kg running 9 sec? Please

Otherwise I belive you becaurse you are old and you know better then me.
Now I agree with you that all those tuners in the world are stupid by using EFI.
Maybe I reinstal my SA back to K-jet

PUMPISH · #**101** 07-16-2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayRash

atleast 310 hp on flywheel, and that is down right perfect, his car will never break, gearbox is still in its capable range, dive shafts, diff, brakes and many other stuff are still stock and will live with 300+ hp. Make 400hp and almost all need upgrading.
It is true that SA will be the more efficient system, but the call for it on our power range is not needed.
Its nice to know though who to turn to when SA is needed.

You are welcome if yoy need help.

And please sorry OFF TOPIC sandbox talk. I will not write off topic in your thread again

Turbo E320 · #**102** 07-16-2008, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

You indicate "Jeffersonville" as your location....outside of Norristown?

If so I lived there for a few years in the mid seventies...

I was born and raised in West Philadelphia, lived in Bryn Mawr for almost thirty years and semi-retired to Rehoboth Beach in 2003.

Many , many years ago there was a a teacher there that was truly a top tuner...I bought my max performance SS/BA hemi from a friend of his in Willow Grove.

Nice little drag car you had back in the day

Id kill for one . My dad had a 700+ hp GTO daily driver back in the day. 11 quart oil pan, reground cam, etc. all the ghetto hp mods. He held a record in colorado for a great many years.

I did live in jeffersonville of west norristown then cemetville of indiana, then louisville and back to cemetville which was renamed.....Jeffersonville lol. Im still treking back to penn though and if im already out there might as well see your car if your free, i always love to see the production stuff. Out here its diy everything from street drag cars with top mount turbos, cavaliers with remote turbos, of course every honda is turbocharged with SSautochrome crap, a rhd diy turbo r33 skyline, and a badass remote turbo C6 vette

.

RBYCC · #**103** 07-17-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo E320

Nice little drag car you had back in the day

Id kill for one . My dad had a 700+ hp GTO daily driver back in the day. 11 quart oil pan, reground cam, etc. all the ghetto hp mods. He held a record in colorado for a great many years.

I did live in jeffersonville of west norristown then cemetville of indiana, then louisville and back to cemetville which was renamed.....Jeffersonville lol. Im still treking back to penn though and if im already out there might as well see your car if your free, i always love to see the production stuff. Out here its diy everything from street drag cars with top mount turbos, cavaliers with remote turbos, of course every honda is turbocharged with SSautochrome crap, a rhd diy turbo r33 skyline, and a badass remote turbo C6 vette

.

PM me if you get back to Pennsylvania....

RBYCC · #**104** 07-17-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PUMPISH

Hi Mr.comman man. Why are you using (bold) text are you angry?

No, just trying to seperate my comments from yours in an easily readable fashion.
Angry...not really actually laughing out loud at your inanity !!!

Quote:

By the way do you have turbo on your AMG 6,0? Becaurse if you can realy read so you should see that I sad I did not belive on K-jet with Turbo for 20 years and I never sad the K-jet does not work with a stock ingine without turbo.

Read again young man as I didn't say that..K-Jet works well with NA as it does with boost.
Your lack of experience prevents you from understanding it...
Easier for you to copy what everyone else is doing then being innovative.
Never knocked you, you're the one who claims K-Jet cannot perform under boost which is absurd.

Quote:

If you think that E30 Turbo runs 9sec with 999Hp and it is very bad then tell me what 1000hp streetcar by 1300kr weight running 7 sec in the 1/4?
And any street car 700hp and 1300kg running 9 sec? Please

What don't you understand....
If you are producing 999RWP and only running high nine seconds then something is drastically wrong.
I watched the video and the car launched with no traction problem.
Doubtful on street tires ? Chassis hooking up...but the 1/4 miles numbers just don't work when you do a basic calculation...
Either you've overstated the dyno number by 50% which is probably or your 999HP car runs poorly.
Should be a high seven second car....possible you aren't knowledgeable about undisputable power to weight ratio compared to elapsed time and trap speed ? Ratio doesn't know if it is a street or strip car...

You asked, I answered !!!!
You want proof...here is an article that goes back to 1994 when you were in diapers...
USA street cars running in the sevens...
Running faster the your E30 and using a distributor and single carb...
Remember this was fourteen years ago, before your one and only SA existed !!!!

A clapped out old F-body with a big block, high rise and large Holley, cammed with headers, distributor ignition with only 550RWP would put twenty cars on your 1000RWP E30 through the traps.....

http://www.hotrod.com/eventcoverage/1994_fastest_street_car_shootout/index.html

Don't challenge Americans when it comes to going fast in the quarter....you'll always lose !

( Bold = not angry Bold = emphatic )

You know zero about drag racing, just think you do....
I was running high tens and mid 130's with the SS/CA national record over thirty years ago when the Swedes were still ice racing Volvo's and Saab's !!!

Quote:

Otherwise I belive you becaurse you are old and you know better then me.
Now I agree with you that all those tuners in the world are stupid by using EFI.
Maybe I reinstal my SA back to K-jet

Again never said that....tuners use SA because that's what is out there at the moment...
But a real tuner knows how to work on any type of induction system...
If somebody brough a carb'd car to you, I'm sure you would just stare at it because you couldn't install an SA system.

You couldn't figure out how to get a system to run fast, so you copied what everyone else is doing. Building unreliable , but relatively fast cars.

Proven by your own car...you trashed it, so why isn't it running ???
By the looks of it, you may have leased it to a clown in an Eastern European circus ???

So excuse my ignorance, after all I'm just an old common man by your description and yet to have achieved meglomaniac status....
You need to be heard and seen or else you're a nobody in your own mind...

By the way, this thread was addressing a Mosselman issue which you have no experience in..it was doing just fine in addressing the OP queries until you rudely entered with your typical "look at me, I'm pumpish and I make video" garbage....

Try to address the Mosselman KE-Jet resolution ...but you don't have the experience...do you "Superman "....????

The curtain has been pulled backed "wizard"....

You do amuse me !!!

PUMPISH · #**105** 07-17-2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBYCC

No, just trying to seperate my comments from yours in an easily readable fashion.
Angry...not really actually laughing out loud at your inanity !!!

Read again young man as I didn't say that..K-Jet works well with NA as it does with boost.
Your lack of experience prevents you from understanding it...
Easier for you to copy what everyone else is doing then being innovative.
Never knocked you, you're the one who claims K-Jet cannot perform under boost which is absurd.

What don't you understand....
If you are producing 999RWP and only running high nine seconds then something is drastically wrong.
I watched the video and the car launched with no traction problem.
Doubtful on street tires ? Chassis hooking up...but the 1/4 miles numbers just don't work when you do a basic calculation...
Either you've overstated the dyno number by 50% which is probably or your 999HP car runs poorly.
Should be a high seven second car....possible you aren't knowledgeable about undisputable power to weight ratio compared to elapsed time and trap speed ? Ratio doesn't know if it is a street or strip car...

You asked, I answered !!!!
You want proof...here is an article that goes back to 1994 when you were in diapers...
USA street cars running in the sevens...
Running faster the your E30 and using a distributor and single carb...
Remember this was fourteen years ago, before your one and only SA existed !!!!

A clapped out old F-body with a big block, high rise and large Holley, cammed with headers, distributor ignition with only 550RWP would put twenty cars on your 1000RWP E30 through the traps.....

http://www.hotrod.com/eventcoverage/1994_fastest_street_car_shootout/index.html

Don't challenge Americans when it comes to going fast in the quarter....you'll always lose !

( Bold = not angry Bold = emphatic )

You know zero about drag racing, just think you do....
I was running high tens and mid 130's with the SS/CA national record over thirty years ago when the Swedes were still ice racing Volvo's and Saab's !!!

Again never said that....tuners use SA because that's what is out there at the moment...
But a real tuner knows how to work on any type of induction system...
If somebody brough a carb'd car to you, I'm sure you would just stare at it because you couldn't install an SA system.

You couldn't figure out how to get a system to run fast, so you copied what everyone else is doing. Building unreliable , but relatively fast cars.

Proven by your own car...you trashed it, so why isn't it running ???
By the looks of it, you may have leased it to a clown in an Eastern European circus ???

So excuse my ignorance, after all I'm just an old common man by your description and yet to have achieved meglomaniac status....
You need to be heard and seen or else you're a nobody in your own mind...

By the way, this thread was addressing a Mosselman issue which you have no experience in..it was doing just fine in addressing the OP queries until you rudely entered with your typical "look at me, I'm pumpish and I make video" garbage....

Try to address the Mosselman KE-Jet resolution ...but you don't have the experience...do you "Superman "....????

The curtain has been pulled backed "wizard"....

You do amuse me !!!

Of caurse I am amuse you becaurse I am a amuseman!

Maybe I dont know much about dragracing but I know about streetdrag.
Did you know that it is 2 different things?

I remember that you did not know last week what LAUNCH control was and asked me about it?
You are proffessional dragracer and you dont know what Launch control is.
What a shame for a 100 years old proffesional comman man like you!

Streetcars goes drag with a stock splitt up rear axel and not 4 link and it make big difference.
You can not use all your power at 1th and 2th gear and use boostcontrol with lower boost.
You can look at youtube and you never find streetcar running number you are talking about.

So you should even say that Supra Ryan Woon is slow too and lieing about his Hp
making high 8 sec with 1500Hp power..or?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABTRXWcttLc

And I never trying to knock american racing, I allways love american racing and have a big respect to them.

Only if I think that you are old sulky women does not mean that I dont like american racing. American dragrace is the best!

By the way I love americans cars too and working with a project right now and thats why I did not have time for my car.
Here is american power in my garage.
Project begins with SA and then dubble turbo

http://turbobanditen.forum24.se/turbobanditen-about60.html

When I am done with it I will fix my car. My car waiting for a new tranny but I found a good stuff now.

And a last think do you think that american power is slow too by making 7,99 with a 1900Hp???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEeo6l3a6s&feature=related

Viper turbo is a KING!