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Old 10-22-2001, 01:23 PM
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lowering my car

i have 90 300 ce which is lowered about 2.8 inches, and I had to raise the back up an inch this week b/c i wore out a set of tires in a month. I already have renntech camber bushings, but is there anything i can do to lower my car again, but straighten my rear wheels outagain

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Old 10-22-2001, 03:36 PM
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...sounds like your post would be more appropriate in the performance paddock/ tech help

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Old 10-22-2001, 04:19 PM
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Thumbs down Toooo low

That's way too low for a road car, especially a Benz. I lowered a 190E about 1.5" with no noticeable abnormal tire wear using Eibach springs and stock shocks. If you must have the slammed look then maybe a set of adjustable coil-overs is what you need...but they are large dollars.
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:43 PM
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the problem is, the car sits just perfect that low. I have 18'' wheels, and the gap between the wheels and the tires is just perfect. it doesnt really sit as low as people think, although some would consider it slammed. It doesnt hit speedbumps, and only sometimes bottoms out on the road, but rarely.
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Old 10-25-2001, 08:46 AM
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I'm sure it loooks sweeeeeeeeeeet and everything fits nicely up in the well, however, there is a point where if one lowers the car too much it changes the mechanics of the suspension beyond all adjustability...hence munching (rear?)tires in a month. Coil-overs are great for adjustability but rather expensive..did you look into those? How did you get that low?...just curious...post a picture.
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Old 10-28-2001, 01:04 AM
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Been there done that

Hey 59,
I too had lowered my car and was eating the tires up like crazy.
Eibach springs with Koni adjustables. Turns out there is a "Max" point beyond which if you go, the rear tires on the W124 Benzes will literally be eaten alive. I had the thinnest pads on the rear originally and by switching to the thickest(barely if 1/4" difference), alleviated the excessive tire wear and the "bow legged look".
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:28 PM
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uhh just buy adjustable camber arms?
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Old 01-27-2007, 02:20 PM
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uhh just buy adjustable camber arms?
Well said.

When one lowers a MB of this vintage, you need to install some means to re-adjust the camber in the front and rear to proper specifications. Otherwise, be prepared to buy tires more frequently. It is a trade off.

Recently, RDM TEK has produced an adjustable front camber kit that replaces the vulcanized rubber mount on the upper shock tower that the shock is attached to. This allows camber re-adjustment and provides a higher spring rate in the front suspension. K-Mac also sells an eccentric bushing.

In the rear, one could use an eccentric bushing, or install an adjustable link.

Bottom line is if you lower your car and don't adjust the camber to compensate for the change in the suspension, you will wear tires faster.

Personally, I've lowered my 500E via spring pads (1-bump Front/1-bump Rear) and have installed the RDM TEK adjustable camber kit in the front and installed SpeedTek adjustable links in the rear. All normal tire wear, other than my rear tires loosing material across the width of the tire. I'm running 245/40-18 in the front and 275/35-18 in the rear.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:29 PM
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In the rear, one could use an eccentric bushing,

Personally, I've lowered my 500E via spring pads (1-bump Front/1-bump Rear) and have installed the RDM TEK adjustable camber kit in the front and installed SpeedTek adjustable links in the rear. All normal tire wear, other than my rear tires loosing material across the width of the tire. I'm running 245/40-18 in the front and 275/35-18 in the rear.
I haven't heard of an eccentric bushing? Pics? hows it work?

hahah i wouldn't say you have lowered your 500e at all, as your car could of come from the factory with 1-bump pads and the same suspension as stock. It definitely wouldnt effect your inner tire wear. The camber parts you have installed are probably overkill unless you plan on slamming it at a later date. Hahahha material across the width of the tire? i like that
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I haven't heard of an eccentric bushing? Pics? hows it work?

hahah i wouldn't say you have lowered your 500e at all, as your car could of come from the factory with 1-bump pads and the same suspension as stock. It definitely wouldnt effect your inner tire wear. The camber parts you have installed are probably overkill unless you plan on slamming it at a later date. Hahahha material across the width of the tire? i like that
Nice try Chuni ... you are COMPLETELY off base when it comes to 500Es.

Considering you are a ROOKIE when it comes to 500Es, I'll give you a pass.
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If you really want more information, use the SEARCH function ... you know, the little menu link above.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:48 PM
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Nice try Chuni ... you are COMPLETELY off base when it comes to 500Es.

Considering you are a ROOKIE when it comes to 500Es, I'll give you a pass.
:fork_off:

If you really want more information, use the SEARCH function ... you know, the little menu link above.
Well instead of attempting to insult me with your colored fonts, maybe you should just prove me wrong with some facts. Typically, when people hear the term "Lowering", they think that you either got some Lower springs or chopped them.

Spring pads are intended to fine tune your ride height, not make a drastic difference. I'm not looking to get in an online battle with you man, i fully acknowledge your keyboard prowess. Got any before and after pics?
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:51 PM
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Chuni:

You asked the question ... you find the answer. Use the search function. Most people on this board deserve an answer, and some do not.
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Old 01-28-2007, 09:35 AM
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easy guys. we try to be polite here.

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Old 01-28-2007, 01:07 PM
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well...

First of all, this thread is 5.5 years old.

Second, spring pads can be used to lower your car...not drastically, but enough to make a visual difference. Roughly speaking, ride height will change by almost 2x the difference in spring pad thickness. So, if you start with 3 bump pads at 18mm and change to 1 bump pads at 8mm (10 mm delta) you can expect a 15 to 20 mm change in ride height.

See some before and after pictures here of Infoage1's 500E.
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:34 PM
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Chuni:

You asked the question ... you find the answer. Use the search function. Most people on this board deserve an answer, and some do not.
hahaha oh god. Apparently this guy is reaaaaaally defensive about his spring pads
my previous post was more of a statement, with a friendly question attached to it. The truth is, i dont really care about pictures as i know how much of a difference spring pads can make. I just attached the question in hopes that it would help calm you down and perhaps detangle your panties a little.

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