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Old 12-26-2002, 06:06 AM
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Hi Christian.

Yes, I am serious. I read it some years ago, but I've been thinking, the E280 was fitted with the 5-speed auto box from new. Did the E320 have a 5-speed auto box too, or were they originally decked out with the four speed auto box? You also have to take weight into consideration and the torque produced by the various engines. bhp or kw/h on their own don't show the full picture.

I've go a 300CE-24 Sportline coupe with a five -speed close ratio stick shift. She produces about 245bhp, 185 lbs of torque.

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Old 12-26-2002, 12:52 PM
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For the U.S., the 300CE (1990-1992) was fitted with the 3.0 liter M104 24-valve motors. They produced 217 hp and 195 ft-lbs. torque. These engines redline at 7,000 rpm. The factory claim was 148mph.

In 1993, the CE's were fitted with a 3.2 liter M104 engine, for slightly better torque rating...229 ft.-lbs. They were still rated (in the U.S.) at 217hp. However, the top speed was a little lower: 144 mph......possibly due to a lower redline.....(these engines redline at 6,400rpm if I recall correctly.)

Car & Driver's article from the April 1991 issue (starting on page 172) quoted a tested 0-60 mph time for the 3.0 motor of 7.7 seconds, the 1/4 mile in 16.1 @ 89mph and a top speed of 147mph for the U.S. model.

Yes, these smooth inline sixes can really haul!
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Old 12-26-2002, 05:07 PM
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I've never tried 0-60. I'll try it in the future with a stopwatch.
However fastest I've gone in my 300CD Turbodiesel is 110mph. (the speedometer says...) however I believe it was more like 100-105mph.

It gathered quite from a BMW owner as he just couldn't accept me passing him... so he went faster than me and had to look over.. what was his problem anyway.. (528i). I was so happy to see his BMW on the side of the highway with hood open a few miles down the interstate.

The cruising speed is 85mph even then it's unbelievably loud compared to the gas models.... especially the 500E!!!!!
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Old 12-27-2002, 12:21 PM
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For the U.S., the 300CE (1990-1992) was fitted with the 3.0 liter M104 24-valve motors. They produced 217 hp and 195 ft-lbs. torque. These engines redline at 7,000 rpm. The factory claim was 148mph.

el presidente.

Thanks for that. These figures do seem to reflect what is in my manual, but I've been told by a MB UK dealer who had it in last year for a major service that the engine produces 240 bhp. - can that be true? Am I lucky!?

I've also got a K&N air filter fitted, but don't think the claims of 10% power performance quoted on the filter boxes is correct.

The MB manual provided with the car states that the car will produce 162kW at 6,400/min, redline at 7,000 rpm and the max torque of 265Nm at 4600/min.

If I remeber correctly, MB don't 'speed test' the cars empty. Weight to represent a fellow passenger and another 20kg in the trunk to represent a suitcase and I think they also had a full load of gas. Not too sure about the full gas tank, but that is what I was told. So the top speed of 148mph is pretty accurate in that case.

In the UK car registration plates carry the year of issue, so that sales will always pick up when the new plates are issued. I've noticed that a lot of drivers don't like moving over for cars with older plates on. To make things worse, I've got a private plate on mine, that makes it seem even older than it is. Good fun.
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Old 12-27-2002, 12:44 PM
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el presidente.

Thanks for that. These figures do seem to reflect what is in my manual, but I've been told by a MB UK dealer who had it in last year for a major service that the engine produces 240 bhp. - can that be true? Am I lucky!?

I've also got a K&N air filter fitted, but don't think the claims of 10% power performance quoted on the filter boxes is correct.

The MB manual provided with the car states that the car will produce 162kW at 6,400/min, redline at 7,000 rpm and the max torque of 265Nm at 4600/min.


If your manual states the rated power is 162kW, this translates loosely into 220 hp....very similar to the 217hp quoted for the U.S. I don't believe MB made any 240hp M104 motors for the 300CE. At least I couldn't find any in the CD-ROM for the W124.

AMG did produce a 3.4 liter variation of this motor rated at 200Kw @6500 rpm. This translates to roughly 272hp.

Hope this helps! Enjoy your ride
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Old 12-27-2002, 04:35 PM
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el presidente.

I've been looking for 3.4 AMG coupe for years, but have never found one. To say the car is rare would be an understaement. I'm toying with the idea of selling my coupe and buying an E55. Sheer performance. The looks however, don't come close to the coupe (in my opinion) On the other hand, I've seen a 300CE with twin turbos for sale . . . . . . . might 'upgrade mine instead.
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Old 01-03-2003, 05:23 PM
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W124 AMG 3.4 coupe

I was cruising around the ol' internet and stumbled upon the MBspares website and they have a W124 AMG modified coupe for sale ther in ol' Aussie land. From what they say there were only 25 examples of this coupe to be made. That one is no. 11. Could be cool, but you'd really have to be in love with it to get it back to merry ol' England because it's $15,000 USD and that's not including shipping!!! Don't know what it'd run to get it to the US but you'd have to be emotionaly attached to it and not care what it cost to get it stateside! BUT, you'd have a pretty darn rare W124 coupe!!
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Old 01-04-2003, 07:44 AM
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Talking 3.4 AMG

Hi Travmonster.

Found the site. When you look at what you get, and the fact that the coupe model still fetches quite a bit for a pristine example, 15,000USD isn't asking too much. I'm going to look into it closer. depends on the shipping though.

Thanks.
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Old 01-04-2003, 08:12 AM
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Got me thinkin......

The more that I think about that car the more I want it!! That would be a seriously cool coupe to have no matter where you are!!! And really, that's not bad considering the mileage and the limited number of examples existing! Makes me want to call my banker or local car investor guy. Maybe he's crazy enough to try and get the coupe over to Augusta GA. Man, that would be cool.....NOBODY would have one of those over here!!
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Old 01-04-2003, 12:49 PM
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Yeah,

It's only done 30,000 miles. Barely run in. If it isn't too expensive to ship, It would be worth it- having said that a collector would certainly pay for it.
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1998 E 430 (sport) topped out at 130-135 MPH and the computor chip limited the speed at that. I believe that cars s made for shipping outside the US have a chip with a higher speed ..
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Old 01-13-2003, 02:33 AM
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I have gteched my '86 300E consistantly at about 7.8-7.9 seconds 0-60 with 1/2 tank of gas and 1st gear start engaged. As for top speed, my car has no problem pulling up to redline which indicated to be just a touch over 140mph, probably 142 or so. I think it will vary a bit between years of the M103 though because I was told that my year had a little more aggressive cam then say the '91 which also has a worse tested 0-60. I think someone mentioned exaust as well but I'm not sure.
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Old 01-15-2003, 08:51 PM
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And to think I was going to stick out my chest with a 5.8


Michael, You are the Man!

Mine was admittedly completely box stock, mid summer afternoon.
I also think that Almandine Red makes yours a little faster
than the heat sink Black color on mine.

PS to Dean,
Are you the anonymous that made the 500E video "0 to rev limiter"
I don't know who made the video, but I must watch it at least once a month. THen I go lie down and rest.
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Old 01-15-2003, 09:09 PM
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got a link to it? i dont think ive ever seen it
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:34 PM
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Hedpe, you are extremely off in your 0-60 time for your 300SEL. Think about it. 177 hp in a car that weighs in at almost 3800 lbs.

There's no way that 7.5 sec time is true. I say more around high 8's or even 9.

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