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Old 07-22-2011, 01:46 PM
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diagram please

How about a diagram.I'm still confused.

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Old 07-22-2011, 02:12 PM
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How about a diagram.I'm still confused.
Dont laugh pls, im on no sleep since yesterday and i cant seem to put my thoughts together to come up with anything better than this.

from old school to new-diagram.jpg

let me know if it helps
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:20 PM
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OK cut the one wire add resistor.The other just cut and leave hanging?Will this work as my other resistor is telling ECU that the air is cold?
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:28 PM
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No only cut and add resistor to the timing feed wire I add the resistor on in the diagram. The rest u don't touch leave them all as they came from factory sorry I didn't explain that. The wire should be yellow but I can't recall for sure.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:40 PM
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Oh ok,well then I did the same thing you did.Except I used the Air temp sensor to tell the ECU the air was cold.This causes it to run in loop with advanced timing and longer injections .Your way would have been cheaper
My way was $69 dollars,but no cutting of wires.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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So I've got it,you can add larger injectors,and throttle plate,if you lie to the ecu or program it.Or replace ECU with a better version,just like the old days.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:59 PM
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U will not find ecu remaps. Sorry. Also ur
Injectors are good enough for 300 hp which u will never reach without
Turbo or supercharger. The best u can do is do the trick I told u cause it let's u go to serious timing. If u add headers u need to check ur new Afr. If ur lean then we try adding more fuel. Thou I really think ur Maf will cover u as it is and the car will spray the extra fuel needed. If u hit 250 hp that will be amazing. It's abt the limit u will reach with all mods possible
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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250 I can live with.Now to lighten my big heavy w140 wish I could find headers.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:12 PM
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I hear u can hit 250. Also if u have cash try Superchips.co.uk or powerchip.com
In both cases these chips require 98ron fuel if u live in the USA that is the 93 fuel u have. They claim u can get close to 250. And I still think it beats any of my tricks.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:30 PM
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Back in the days I setup CNC lathes and Mills I learned you could lie to the computer to get things done.
Seems like we can lie to our ECU's to get our cars to perform better.
Who said old Dogs can't learn new tricks.
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:41 PM
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Just to give an idea abt my trick. Say I race a car that pulls abt a car and a half on me by 110mph. When I fool the ecu I would run neck and neck with it. So I know for a fact that it works. Just make sure u have no knock as that means ur losing power and running unneeded risk on the engine.
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:50 PM
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the variable resistor

This wide open timing, then I could then run 110 octane racing gas?Or Nitro Methane too?
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Old 07-22-2011, 04:56 PM
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You need to have an Afr check to know ur flowing enough and don't go crazy with values as ecu might
Reach a limit I suspect u need to first start on regular fuel and tell us what value u can run with no knock. Only then I might be able to say how far u can push it
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:21 PM
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You got me on what a AFR is.I know its not active fart reclaimer.I know I can reach 300 hp with nitrous.Nitrous has no lag,like a turbo or supercharger.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:11 PM
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Air fuel ratio. On ur car u shouldn't be over 13 on race fuel. On regular fuel I think u should be or if car is tuned stock to run at 12.6 to 12.8 on wide open throttle. The higher the numerical figure the less fuel u have and the lower means more fuel. Perfect power is made between 12.5 and 13.

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