BergWerks Electronic 1st Gear Start Module - Page 4 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

#46 09-27-2002, 01:18 PM

Hey guys....don't hog all the fun....would this application work on my 1999 ML 430.... I wouldn't mind a little more pep off the line...

stummala · #47 09-27-2002, 01:19 PM

Your ML already starts in 1st gear. Make sure the S/W switch is in the "S" mode.

Satish

JimF · #48 10-05-2002, 07:56 PM

The FGS plus Winter and Security modes has been installed about three weeks and I can say that the FGS is absolutely a great feature.

For example, yesterday, I need some extra 'zip' to make a turn (from a standstill) to merge into traffic. I, of course, forgot that it's installed because it operates so smoothly. So, I gave the pedal a little extra, assuming that it was about to start in 2nd gear. Much to my surprise the car stepped out very briskly and merged without a hitch!

However, their Security Mode is a disappointment. It does not work as advertised. Once the SS mode 'fires', it locks out the normal Mercedes system from unlocking the doors. Thus the system is hung up. The only way that the doors, trunk, and locking gas cap can be opened is by use the remote key door feature. By locking and then, unlocking the system all doors, trunk, etc. can be reset.

The frustrating part is that you always forget to take you key when you shut off the car. So you step out, try to open the trunk, and then say "@#%^&*"! Then you go back into the car to get the key so you can open the trunk! I've notified Carl about this problem before today but have done so again today. But no response. If it can't be 'fixed', it will have to be disabled!

stummala · #49 10-06-2002, 06:18 PM

HI Jim,

Thanks for the kind words about the first gear unit. We are currently investigating the lock syndrome for the "security" version of the system in your vehicle. We'll be in touch as we investigate a rendition that will be most suitable for you.

Regards,

Satish

JimF · #50 10-06-2002, 07:57 PM

Carl has known about this right after it was installed. So, as you can tell, it's driving me nuts!

In the meantime, while I'm waiting, isn't there a 'quick' disconnect of this feature concentrating on the connections made to the wiring on the right side passenger well. For reference, pic #11 on page 16 showing right side door lock connections.

Also if I have to 'cut' a wire coming from the main module, that's ok too!

If I could disable this feature until there's a fix, I would like to do that asap. TIA.

myarmar · #51 10-06-2002, 08:13 PM

Jim, just program it to kick in only at 155mph. Make sure CHP is not around!

stummala · #52 10-06-2002, 09:26 PM

Actually, that's true. One may program the lock/unlock feature of the FGS unit to any speed they desire. That's the beauty of this product.

Perhaps at 155mph, it'll make damn sure that you're locked and secure! :-)

Satish

stummala · #53 10-06-2002, 09:27 PM

Jim,

Let me touch base with Steve and find out which particular lead he used on your car. I'll post as soon as I find out.

Regards,

Satish

mushedroom · #54 10-08-2002, 01:42 PM

so basically,
this switch is useless for a 92' 300CE coupe that already has the 1st gear start?

stummala · #55 10-08-2002, 04:52 PM

The unit is designed to restore 1st gear start for those V8 and V12 models that didn't have the capability from the factory. 4 and 6 cylinder models utilize a modification to the transmission's valve body for 1st gear takeoff.

We can perform these modifications as well.

Regards,

Satish

mushedroom · #56 10-08-2002, 05:02 PM

hey satish,

i didn't know you were a bergwerks guy!

i'm also on your mbcoupes mailing list.

um how much are we talkin about for this mod?

mushedroom · #57 10-08-2002, 05:02 PM

another question,

how much would it be to change my auto to a five speed manual if i had the manual gear box?

is it possible?

ke6dcj · #58 10-08-2002, 05:40 PM

Satish- I've seen 6-cylinder W124's from Europe that have either the E/S or W/S switch installed. Supposedly this allow for 2nd or 1st gear starts.

Can't these be retrofitted to the 6-cylinder W124's?

:-) neil
1988 360TE AMG
1993 500E

JimF · #59 10-08-2002, 07:28 PM

to disable the door lock mode. Simply bypassed the relay used in the Security mode:

Will wait till Carl has some time to 'work' on W140, R129 cars to see why it doesn't function. Meanwhile I have the original mode of operation and can re-enable the relay with a simple cut.

stummala · #60 10-08-2002, 10:00 PM

Hi,

First off to answer the questions in tandem:

1. The cost of a valve body retrofit will depend on the year/model of the car. For some, the retrofit simply cannot be done (cheaply anways). Please call us for a proper estimate.

2. A 5-speed manual can be installed but you must also have the shifter housing, tailshaft housing, and maybe a different driveshaft. Overall though, it should be a straightforward operation.

3. Neil, the S/E switch on cars in Europe doesn't enable nor disable first gear start. For cars that had this switch, the "S" mode enables normal shifting (still starting in 2nd gear), while the "E" mode enables delayed, lazy upshifts for better fuel economy (but still starts in 2nd gear).

4. Jim F, that solution of bypassing the relay looks fine. It should render the unit disabled for the security feature adequently.

Satish