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Old 09-17-2002, 12:33 PM
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HEY CAP!!!!

THANKS!!!!

you should check out my thread....

W124 300CE with my new BRABUS monoblock iv's

i posted like 5 or 6 pics...

the next mod i'm contemplating is H&R springs with standard, but new, bilstein shocks....and then euro headlight conversion, just waiting on some additional parts...then the last crowning modification...custom competition class sound system....

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Old 09-17-2002, 07:15 PM
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hey momentum, of course its ok to compare a 15 year old mercedes to a 99 civic, its a mercedes!
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Old 09-17-2002, 07:24 PM
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hey momentum, of course its ok to compare a 15 year old mercedes to a 99 civic, its a mercedes!
The problem is not the age but the purpose of the cars in the comparison. To pit a midlevel luxury sedan against a hotrodded economy coupe is pointless. The car that comes out on top depends entirely on the criteria used to judge them. The 300E is the "better" car because it's smoother, more refined, and better built. The Civic Si is the "better" car because it's quicker, handles better, and is readily juiced for more power.

If you want to compare the Civic Si with an older Mercedes, how about a 190E 2.6? Still not a direct competitor, but a lot closer in type and function than a 300E.
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Old 09-17-2002, 07:56 PM
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I think the civic si would be more along the lines of an EvoII....
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Old 09-17-2002, 08:14 PM
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check out the "9th day driving" thread for another "comparison"
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Old 09-21-2002, 11:10 PM
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Wow, I didn't think some people here were so sensitive and insecure in regards to this subject. Posting in a forum such as this, in the presence of many distinguished and knowledgable Mercedes owners, I was pretty disappointed in many of the reponses. Alot of this was the type of stuff I expected to see in some ricer forum rather than a mature and civilized board such as this one.

Anyways, leme clarify my point once more for those who didn't seem to understand it:

In my opinion, a Civic SI would be a more desirable and fun car for a teenager to drive than a 300E would be. I never bought the 300E, it was passed down to me by my parents and I was forced to drive it because I had no other options at the time. When it comes to safety, luxury, and class, the 300E is no doubt the better car, and if those are your reasons for liking the car, then thats perfectly fine.

What irritates me is seeing some of these 300E owners turn into these ridiculous wannabe racers talking about absurd modifications such as cutting off the flap on the intake, or whether or not they feel a difference from their seat dyno after installing a K&N. If you want something fast that you can modify and race, atleast get something that is lighter and manual god damnit. The 300E is NOT a race car.

Thats all Im saying. Any objections? Feel free to give me your opinion in a constructive manner.

Btw: mushroomhead or whatever your name was, I think you gave everyone on this board a good laugh with your claim of "smoking vettes off the line" with your non VTEC integra. I know that had me laughing for a while. Maybe next we'll be hearing stories about your 300CE hanging with Vipers in the 1/4 mile lol...
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Old 09-22-2002, 12:20 AM
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Going by your logic, why not get a good used v-8 mustang or camaro which could be had for around the same price as your civic and easily outpeforms it with no mods? Why start out with a slow civic when you can have a fast car out of the box?
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Old 09-22-2002, 12:51 AM
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Thats because American cars are totally unrealiable.
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Old 09-22-2002, 01:00 AM
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And V-8's are gas guzzlers. Not to mention their poor handling.
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Old 09-22-2002, 02:30 AM
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Bobby, I find your most recent post in this thread exposes your insincerity.

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Wow, I didn't think some people here were so sensitive and insecure in regards to this subject. Posting in a forum such as this, in the presence of many distinguished and knowledgable Mercedes owners, I was pretty disappointed in many of the reponses. Alot of this was the type of stuff I expected to see in some ricer forum rather than a mature and civilized board such as this one.
I don't believe for a minute you were disappointed, and I don't believe for a minute that you didn't expect the reactions that you got.

You took what appeared to be a parting shot at the Mercedes fans on this board, and even a complete fool could have predicted a negative reaction.

What does it matter to you if posters here on this board discuss methods of increasing horsepower, whether it's 1 or 100?

What difference does any of this make to you if you are secure in the knowledge that you have purchased the right car for you?

And did you believe that you could get away with being immature and uncivilized because the mature and civilized people here wouldn't respond?

Bobby, it boils down to this. Apparently you were `forced' to drive your 300E. By contrast, the vast majority of us here have worked hard to obtain the cars we have, and we are proud of them.

A mature and civilized individual will respect how hard we have worked to obtain these, and will respect the love and attention to detail that we bring to our passion.

In the final analysis, I wonder why you're still bothering to post here.
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That civic is still not going to be fast, unless you put big money into a turbo or supercharger.
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Old 09-22-2002, 11:03 PM
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Are you having a split personality?

Bobby 300E,
I respect the fact that you like the Honda better than the 300E that you were "forced" to drive. Again, we are simply responding to your thread comparing the 124 and the Honda Civic. Going back to your old posts, it seems to me it was you who were trying to make all sorts of ridiculous modifications to your car. Let's just refresh your memory a bit before this thread goes too far.

The way I see it, you were given the 300E to drive. But the one you got from your parents was a rather abused example. So you got a bad taste on the car right from the getgo. See thread:
Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>Repair after repair on my 300E, is it worth it?

Then you went to the extend to try making a sedan into what it is not, and you bad mouthed it when that could not be done. That just shows your immaturity. You cannot make a chicken into peacock. See the following threads of your own:

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>performance Paddock>Where can I find the 500E sway bar?

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>Driving without an air filter?

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>Some sweet 124 kits

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>Underbody lighting kit for a Mercedes?

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Perfromance Paddock>Directions on Ram Air Intake

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Suport>Performance Paddock>300TE Turbo on a 300E?

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>Couple questions on 300E Upgrade

Shop Forum>Technical Information and Support>Performance Paddock>+7hp from new spark plugs for 300E

As I recall, you wanted to have other things done such as Euro headlights, louder engine sound, K&N filter, Aerospeed AMG exhaust, and computer chip.

But, you also listed the cars that you proudly beat with your 300E:
BMW 525i
Miata
Beetle
Jetta
Camry
Isuzu Trooper

So Bobby 300E, who is the wannabe racer here? You wouldn't by chance also go by the signature ProudMary at the Car and Driver site who bash Mercedes?
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Old 09-23-2002, 12:49 AM
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That's well said elau and BlueBabyBenz.

As for you Bobby300E,
Add your useless aftermarket glowing exhaust tip and your supposed 30+hp intake to your civic and find a new forum!

Sorry that I have to be such a prick, but please! Your in a Mercedes forum and your downing our pride and joy rides. If you want to stick around and darn other peoples cars because their safer and cleaner looking than your POS, So be It, But you certainly won't be making any friends. The difference between my car and yours is that almost every dweeb that inherits their mom's grocery getter civic can add some outrageous body kit or performance mod to it easily. Just like the other kid next door. and the other kid next to him... My car, and many other Mercedes enthusiasts’ cars have to be put together from scratch! Not some 5-minute bolt on kit or one size fits all junk! Your just another punk with another econo civic. I’m just a successful businessman with another modified Mercedes,, Lots of those on the road, Huh.
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Old 09-23-2002, 02:29 AM
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I can say I make my money by fixing/racing/modifying rice cars but I prefer the german stuff myself. The rice cars just don't feel solid and I do not feel safe at 100 mph+ in one. I feel safe in my benz at 100 mph+. I race ricers and when you go burm hopping with them, the cars get all tweaked out and don't stay together.
Driving an MB race car over the burms is awesome. The car just stays together and I never get suspension changes. The MB race car is strong & light, but yet does not feel like a tin can.

The 300E is a very modifiable car. Over in Asia they modify the **** out of the 300E & 190E's. Mercedes owners over there are not usually kids, so they are not really into the bragging scene with the magazines. So you never hear about this stuff unless you live there. I think in Thailand alone every other benz has a turbo in it! or an engine conversion. Same goes for the BMWs over there.
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Old 09-23-2002, 04:16 AM
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And V-8's are gas guzzlers. Not to mention their poor handling.
Oh my, there go the stereotypes again. I honestly don't even want to get into it with you but for the sake of american cars I invite you to re-think your comment on handling. Honestly I don't see how the stereotype of american cars handling bad survived so long after the actual truth died. I would encourage you to go take a later model Camaro (any 4th gen) and drive it. Then reply again. Thank you.

Sorry and no pun intended at all but this whole "american cars handle bad" thing hits a nerve for me.

as for the gas milage, i wont argue there. they're not going to get 35 like your civic but nowdays they're much more refined and i think youd be surprised.

ok im getting out of here before i take shots from both the german and japanese sides...

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