I need to find a 16V ECU. I have been talking with Jim Conforti (the BEST BMW chip tuner) about tuning the 16V for some more power. Now since the 16V used the old Jetronic instead of the new Motronic there is no way to chip it. But Jim Conforti has broke everyone of Bosch's codes, so he would be the most likely to be able to tune the older Jetronic. He has told me if I can get him an ECU that he would be glad to tear it apart and try to figure it out. This could turn out to be very good for those of us with older (and new) MB's that would like some more power. So if anyone has a 16V ECU for sale or knows where I might be able to find one please let me know.

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Adrian Eckenrod
MBCA, PCA, BMWCCA & SCCA* member
86 190 2.3-16
83 944 ITS Racer

Keep us posted on any developments. I know I would LOVE to get him to tune my 500E! I can recall a few other MB owners out there who would like to get the kind of gains/results Conforti is famous for.

Thanks,
Lee

Hi, so Mr. Conforti is considering doing Mercedes now ?
That would be great if he do, I will loive to have my 300E turn !
Pete

For a used 190 ECU , you can try one of those Mercedes Wrecking shop around your area.
I do have a reference around Seattle WA area. Those auto wrecking shops do have a large networks, that could look up any used mercedes parts.
The store around my area is call the Aurora Auto Wrecking Inc.
1800-426-6464
You can ask for Kevin McAllister, he appears to be a nice and helpfull person who knows alot about used Mercedes parts. If they don't have the parts they will recommand you to someone else. Pobably to one of Mercedes wrecking store around your area.
hope this will help !
Peter regards

RAE 190,
The MercedesShop team is currently looking into the parts scene and one of the prospects has 12 disributors and a Mercedes salvage yard! We will keep you guys updated.

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Thanks for all the help guys. I have located a late model 16V ECU and took possesion of it today. I'll be shipping it to Jim Conforti Monday. I'll keep everyone informed as to the progress of Jim tuning it. Thanks again

Guys please keep me posted too. I have a 190/201 16Valve group in Atlanta, Georgia. We would love to upgrade our ECU or Supercharge / Turbo.

You do realize the thread was six years "cold" when you revived it?

Does the "guest" status on the previous posters indicate that they are no longer registered users here?

maybe the codes on the 16v ECU are a little tougher to crack

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'93 W124.036 199/040 leder; 8.25x17 EvoIIs, up in flames...LITERALLY!
'93 W124.036 481/040 leder; euro delivery; 8.25x17 EvoIIs
'88 R107.048 441/409 leder; Euro lights
'87 W201.034 199/040 leder; Euro lights; EvoII brakes; 8x16 EvoIs - soon: 500E rear brakes
'70 R113.044 050/526; factory alloys; Euro lights

ON KE Jetronic systems the engine computer doesn't really do much! SO why would anyone try to modify that computer? THE engine is at maximun at WOT!

The biggest problem with lack of HP with the 16V is runner length of the intake! Going to a shorter manifold with EFI is the only real way that the fuel system would allow for MORE HP!

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190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold)
1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold)
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I just acquired a euro spec 1985 model 16v. Tell me some more about changing intakes please. I like the car. I wish it had a little more pop though. I see where one fellow used a supercharger off a newer c class on a 190e. I thought that was sort of slick. A different intake might be more in my budget however. Is it something that they used in europe possibly an AMG item ?

.....on this thread, please.

M.B. Doc, please see my 16V rebuild question thread posted earlier today. I would like your thoughts on this, please.

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Charles Cleaver
1975 350SE + 1992 300CE-24 SportLine 5-speed + 2002 SLK320 6-speed + 1974 W114 280
1986 190E 2.3-16 (Decomm rear self-leveling suspension; Euro-code headlamps) sold
2004 Audi S4 6-spd - sold
1969 (2) and 1980 Porsche 911T, S, and SC - alas gone
1987 300SDL - Graf Spee; Euro-code headlamps; 16-inch 8-hole wheels - sold
1994 E420+(E500 suspension/E-code headlamps/PAD chip) sold
1968 250SE 4-speed (NICE car) - long gone
1962 220S 4-speed/column mount - long gone

This is what AMG did for the DTM cars, note the EFI individual throttle bodies.



PGA is selling a former DTM 16 valve:

PGA Ebay Listing

Who is PGA and tell me about the engine, please.

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Charles Cleaver
1975 350SE + 1992 300CE-24 SportLine 5-speed + 2002 SLK320 6-speed + 1974 W114 280
1986 190E 2.3-16 (Decomm rear self-leveling suspension; Euro-code headlamps) sold
2004 Audi S4 6-spd - sold
1969 (2) and 1980 Porsche 911T, S, and SC - alas gone
1987 300SDL - Graf Spee; Euro-code headlamps; 16-inch 8-hole wheels - sold
1994 E420+(E500 suspension/E-code headlamps/PAD chip) sold
1968 250SE 4-speed (NICE car) - long gone
1962 220S 4-speed/column mount - long gone

PGA = Potomac German Auto, see the ebay ad, or: www.google.com