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05-06-2004, 07:46 AM
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126 idle control circuit
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126 idle control circuit
Still working the issues with rough idle and hard starting with me 126-560SEL (86 year). I have noted the following:
-EHA current at start (cold) is very low. It should be 75-100 ma. When warm the...
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05-02-2004, 07:44 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control/enrichment
Thanks Jeff-
Well based on my testing i am concluding now that the ECU is not sending EHA current during start up/KOEO/ I put the meter on the EHA and watched the current. At cold start, there is no...
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04-30-2004, 10:02 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control/EHA CURRENT
Well I just tested the eha current. Cold start (KOEO) condition I observe zero current to the EHA. During starting cranking no current either. After warm up I observe a current to the EHA of 4-5 ma...
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04-29-2004, 08:19 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control
many thanks gents -- i have a few things to add---
-first, in the design of the idle valve it appears to me that there is a constant bypass (a small tube say about eighth inch in dia) that "short...
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04-28-2004, 08:26 PM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control
Steve-
Thanks your experience . You suggest that the performance of the valve is not linear wrt ICU current - especially at lower current levels (or out of spec limits). Are u suggesting then that...
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04-28-2004, 07:48 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control
Yes I agree this is starting to make sense now. However, I hasten to add that in my previous troubleshooting I removed the valve, ran carb cleaner thru it, bench tested with 12 volts (understand that...
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04-27-2004, 03:23 PM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control
Not sure i am understanding what is happening still. My symptoms are a slow and rough idle with a lower than spec control voltage and current. If raising the voltage and current slow the idle then I...
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04-27-2004, 01:46 PM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control
thanks for the inputs gents--interesting reading. My reading at the connector when attached and engine running is 1.25 volts or 2.5volts at 50% duty cycle as steve points out.
I hve placed full...
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04-27-2004, 10:48 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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idle control unit
i just tested the control current to the valve and it is running about 180ma or substantially below spec of 600-1000 ma. just for kix i unplugged the ovp while the engine was running and the current...
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04-25-2004, 11:31 AM
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126 idle control unit operation
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126 idle control unit operation
my car is a 86 560SEL with 190K miles on the clicker.
I am still trying to get to the bottom of a hard start/rough idle condition that has persisted thru all of my other troubleshooting...
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03-31-2004, 08:28 AM
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560SEL bad idle
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560SEL bad idle
I am getting close i think to finding out what is causing my bad idle . I am not questioning why the voltage at start up and idle at the idle air valve is ONLY 1.25 volts dc. From other posts on the...
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03-29-2004, 09:10 PM
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rough idle/hard start cold-126
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follow up
Well i did do the injectors as a replacement early on to attempt to resolve this problem. I didnt see any difference in the idle problem. I have observed the following :
-the voltage "open loop"...
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03-29-2004, 11:13 AM
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rough idle/hard start cold-126
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sorry - model is 560SEL 1986 vintage. --USA...
sorry - model is 560SEL 1986 vintage. --USA model.
Thanks.
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03-29-2004, 08:31 AM
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rough idle/hard start cold-126
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rough idle/hard start cold-126
I am shooting this problem and have now focused on the idle speed air valve area of the EM system. I have been thru the archvies and recall hearing that at idle when one removes the two pin connector...
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02-18-2004, 11:02 AM
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560SEL cold start hard
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560SEL cold start hard
I have been bothered with this problem for some time now and have recently done more checking in an effort to understand it more -- all very interesting but to no avail so far. I am experiencing very...
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01-05-2003, 11:17 AM
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126/560SEL heater flap
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126/560SEL heater flap
Merc is a 1986 560SEL USversion.
I have diagnosed my "cold feet" problem to the fact that the heater door does not retract once the defrost closes is. In other words-- if i push leftmost defrost...
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07-16-2002, 07:49 AM
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86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
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Resolution-cold start/rough idle
This situation was resolved last week with the replacement of the main vacuum hose. The idle problem worsened to the point where the engine almost would not start, and the brake booster was not...
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07-05-2002, 08:03 AM
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Like everyone else...idle problem
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david-having similar experience with my '86...
david-having similar experience with my '86 560SEL. What i am finding out is that the engine mgt system on this vintage of car is amazingly complex and subject to component failures that are hard to...
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06-28-2002, 08:08 AM
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560 SEL Do I want it?
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86 560SEL
Since i bought one used about 5 yrs ago I can give you thoughts-be careful of the following:
-as stated previously the timing chains and tensioners will need to be done at 100K miles. $800-900 . ...
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06-26-2002, 03:25 PM
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W126 idle air valve - test
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W126 idle air valve - test
I am trying to fix a hard start/rough cold idle problem and from a search it appears one of the culprits could be a stuck idle air valve.
Is is a valid test of the system (and to test the idle...
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06-24-2002, 11:11 AM
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starting problem
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I am fightin the same problem on my 560SEL and i...
I am fightin the same problem on my 560SEL and i have not found the problem yet. Some things to look at further that come to mind-
1)check the coolant sensor and the resistance values
2)check the...
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06-19-2002, 10:46 AM
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86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
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Thanks Moe- Yes this one has me stumped....
Thanks Moe-
Yes this one has me stumped. Wires and plugs are fine and i put new cap and rotor on. I suppose fuel dist is possible like u say -- i did see on a search that there are screens that...
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06-19-2002, 10:12 AM
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86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
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moedip-hbofinger Many thanks for your reply. I...
moedip-hbofinger
Many thanks for your reply. I had the local wrench check the fuel leak downs and we verified at the ditributor the pressure was ok. That was our initial thought as well.
Cold...
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06-19-2002, 07:59 AM
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86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
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86 560SEL cold start/rough idle
I continue to frustrate myself trying to find the source of this annoying cold start problem. I have diagnosed to the point where I observe the following:
-Engine cranks hard (about 7-10 sec) and...
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06-04-2002, 08:30 AM
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560SEL N3 pin outs
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560SEL N3 pin outs
I am troublshooting a cold start problem and have encountered an inconsistency in my car vs. the mb service engine manual. N3 as stated in the docs should be a 25 pin connector (21 pins used) - but...
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05-30-2002, 09:49 AM
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560SEL hard start /low rough idle
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algae1
560SEL hard start /low rough idle
Have been struggling with this prob as follows:
-After sitting overnight at about 60 deg F ambient cranks hard (5-8 sec) , starts, idles slow and rough and stalls. Third try seems to work and idle...
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05-28-2002, 08:41 AM
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560SEL hard start /rough idle
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560SEL hard start /rough idle
I am diagnosing this problem and have been through the search facility etc to determine next steps. I am getting closer but at a dead end for now. This is an 86 126/117 US version. I have been though...
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