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Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-23-2011, 09:36 AM

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Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

I completely agree it is perfectly sufficient as...

I completely agree it is perfectly sufficient as a check in the context of the OP's problem. It has been mentioned in previous posts.

As for looking at the camshaft - true very true - unless...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-23-2011, 03:24 AM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Due to the high volume of traffic on this thread...

Due to the high volume of traffic on this thread the OP's problem has been somewhat brushed aside.

He's not 100% sure that the engine builder has set up the timing correctly. It was suggested that...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-23-2011, 03:18 AM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Thanks for all of the TDC measurement information...

Thanks for all of the TDC measurement information leathermang but like I said we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm sticking with the information in the FSM and my own experiences....

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 03:13 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

I get it - I get it - I do - honest. But...

I get it - I get it - I do - honest.

But you're saying a two point measurement and a bit of calculation is better than an almost continuous multi point measurement.

I disagree.

Sorry.
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Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 03:07 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

OK we've had our fun - what about the OP's problem

Here's my advice Sethza - look through the information and see if you can find a way that suits you to determine if TDC on #1 cylinder coincides with the timing marks or not.

I'd then go for the...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 03:00 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Good point about the pre-chamber funola being at...

Good point about the pre-chamber funola being at an angle it wouldn't be the best position to measure piston height in my opinion. A DTI is best used at 90 degrees to the surface being measured - it...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 02:29 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Nice the method in the FSM is similar. However,...

Nice the method in the FSM is similar. However, the FSM method is more accurate as it uses the design of the head with its vertical valve stems and a DTI to do this for us.

I've actually done the...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 02:12 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

During my winter madness I spent quite a bit of...

During my winter madness I spent quite a bit of time messing about measuring cam profiles and piston heights - I put quite a bit of information in this thread:-
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Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 02:02 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

Views: 6,264

Posted By Stretch

If you were planning to remove the head though...

If you were planning to remove the head though you could easily perform this simple check.

I'd do this before doing all the extra work.

It isn't quite as good as actually physically checking...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 01:54 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Oh well - it looks like we'll have to agree to...

Oh well - it looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I'd do it my way - and you'd do it yours.

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 01:41 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

Views: 6,264

Posted By Stretch

I disagree - if you put a clock gauge (DTI) on...

I disagree - if you put a clock gauge (DTI) on the top of the valve stem when doing this you can find TDC very accurately. Have a look at chapter 03-345 in the FSM.

Also for the purpose of the...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 01:30 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Well I see what you are saying - that would be...

Well I see what you are saying - that would be pretty incompetent. You wouldn't have to remove the head to check though:-

Set the engine with the markings to TDC for number one cylinder. Remove...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 02:57 AM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

That seems really unlikely to me. It is pretty...

That seems really unlikely to me. It is pretty simple. It is also pretty simple to check. Get hold of a DTI (dial test indicator) and have a look at the chain elongation check in the wiki
...

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-22-2011, 02:52 AM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

It doesn't sound to me like the OP is avoiding it...

It doesn't sound to me like the OP is avoiding it - may be others are but not he!

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-21-2011, 12:59 PM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

Oh good (said the spider to the fly!) I've been...

Oh good (said the spider to the fly!) I've been told about this - a wheel lug bolt also works.

I'm planning a little experiment when I (or if I ever) get the engine back in!

Forum: Diesel Discussion

07-21-2011, 10:21 AM

Replies: 81

Questions involving I.P. timing.

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Posted By Stretch

All this messing about with drip tubes makes me...

All this messing about with drip tubes makes me wonder what on earth Mercedes did when they built these bloody things. I can't see a production line past say 1940 messing about with drip tubes - it...

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