Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum > Technical Information and Support > Diesel Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-21-2005, 01:00 AM
whunter's Avatar
whunter whunter is offline
FastLane/Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 9,294
Bad engine mounts

Pictures of what they look like.
Left mount.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Left_1.JPG
Views:	582
Size:	16.9 KB
ID:	25517   Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Left_2.JPG
Views:	347
Size:	15.4 KB
ID:	25518   Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Left_3.JPG
Views:	349
Size:	15.8 KB
ID:	25519  
__________________
whunter
Moderator & FastLane Support
ASE Master Mechanic
roy@peachparts.com

"Red Green"
If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-21-2005, 01:03 AM
whunter's Avatar
whunter whunter is offline
FastLane/Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 9,294
Bad engine mounts #2.

Pictures of what they look like.
Right mount.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Right_1.JPG
Views:	759
Size:	20.0 KB
ID:	25520   Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Right_2.JPG
Views:	518
Size:	16.1 KB
ID:	25521   Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Right_3.JPG
Views:	615
Size:	19.7 KB
ID:	25522   Click image for larger version

Name:	1985_300SD_engine_mount_Right_4.JPG
Views:	671
Size:	17.7 KB
ID:	25523  
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-21-2005, 01:49 AM
TwitchKitty's Avatar
TwitchKitty TwitchKitty is offline
Just fix it
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Varies
Posts: 2,056
What about bad new replacement mounts? Any brands or supply chains to avoid? Same with trans mounts since they are part of the same picture.
__________________
Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear. I reserve the right to be wrong, others take the liberty. My posts are not intended to be complete, just enough to help you find your own answers.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-21-2005, 02:26 AM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
The left looks not too terrible (sometimes the cracks are only surface deep) but that right one is in dire need of replacement. Mine were even worse...and thus the belt decided to kiss the oil cooler line

Glad I got that fixed....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-21-2005, 03:47 AM
mbenzgoodyear's Avatar
mbenzgoodyear mbenzgoodyear is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New Braunfels, Texas
Posts: 91
I had my motor mounts replaced the first of this week. Both the left and right and rear. I had the dealer install em so it was around $150 total but I believe that the mounts were only about $20 a piece (the rest was the $80/hr labor), but was well worth it as I do not have the means to complete the task. One thing I did notice was that it didnt shake anymore...who would have thought
__________________
1980 300D European
"The Red Fox"
200,000 miles

2003 Chevrolet Silverado

609 Certification
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-21-2005, 07:37 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
t walgamuth t walgamuth is online now
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 16,734
motor mounts

oh yeah... those little dogs are ugly.

i don't know of any aftermarket mounts available so the factory ones are the only that i have any experience with.

yeah, as they fail the metal mounting strut sits lower and lower until you have metal to metal then it will sound as if you have a gigantic caterpillar engine up there grinding away. the whole car will shake and buzz like crazy! you'll think it is going to blow up, maybe.

not really too difficult to change, just grunt work and a good jack under the engine to lift the weight off the mount. you will get very dirty.
__________________
Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 82 300cd stick, 83 240/300d five speed, 84 280e euro, 99 Miata, 03 Dodge 3/4 ton with cummins six speed; I have had about 30 benzes two of which I now own for the second time!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-21-2005, 09:12 AM
stayalert stayalert is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Norwich, VT USA
Posts: 872
"you will get very dirty"

Second that.... I might even add another "very" in there.....
__________________
Rob M
Norwich, VT USA
'85 300D (Turbo) (federal) ~160K miles
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-21-2005, 09:58 AM
dataiv dataiv is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto, ON (Canada)
Posts: 135
Is it easy to look at the mounts before changing them, to see if they need changing, or are they well enough hidden that you can't get a clear shot at them?
__________________
1991 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo (207000km) (now gone)
1993 Audi 100 CS Quattro (300000km)
1999 VW Jetta TDI (290000km)
2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro (150000km)
2005 MB E320 CDI (34000km)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-21-2005, 06:58 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by stayalert
"you will get very dirty"

Second that.... I might even add another "very" in there.....
I agree...steamclean as much as possible before hand...and make it a HOT steamclean...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-21-2005, 06:59 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by dataiv
Is it easy to look at the mounts before changing them, to see if they need changing, or are they well enough hidden that you can't get a clear shot at them?
The easiest test I have found is grab onto the valve cover from the drivers side and just shake the engine as violently as you can. See what the mounts do (look below the injector pump).

Also if you have a helper then can put the car in gear while standing on the brakes and see if the engine tries to roll over in the bay
Mine used to rock around a LOT before I replaced it...not just just kinda quivers...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-22-2005, 08:53 AM
stayalert stayalert is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Norwich, VT USA
Posts: 872
I have an untested uneducated unexperienced theory - I guess it is more like a wild a$$ guess crossed with a chin scratching Hmmmmmm?

The passenger side mount is subject to violent tension (as opposed to compression) when the starter yanks the lump to life. It (passenger side) is subject to more heat from exhaust/turbo in the vacinity.

These thoughts are based on my personal experience having viewed/worked on 1 car with engine mounts that did not have the heat shields.....In my experience the passenger side mount was in much worse condition than the driver side.....
__________________
Rob M
Norwich, VT USA
'85 300D (Turbo) (federal) ~160K miles
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-22-2005, 11:39 AM
meltedpanda's Avatar
meltedpanda meltedpanda is offline
Certified Benzaholic
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Central Ky
Posts: 3,231
I got some after market crap mounts and they proceeded to collapse in the short time I had them on less than 3-5 miles, complained to source with no response, I won't mention the name of the ever popular and much admired web based supplier of Benz parts that I no longer do business with.......Unless properly bribed
__________________
Ron
84 300SD, Benjamin
72 450SL, Pearl
http://s248.photobucket.com/albums/g.../1972%20450SL/
folder_id=1992331[/url]
04 F350 - Terminator
00 Saturn SL2 - Dori
03 Saturn SL1 - Elmo
07 Lexus RX 350 - Lexi
04 500 Watt Electric Scooter - Suni
04 24HP John Deere 2210 Tractor -
71 220 - W115-Libby ( my first love)
73 280 - W114 "Organspende" Rest in Peace
81 380 SL - Rest in Peace
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-22-2005, 11:44 AM
dataiv dataiv is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto, ON (Canada)
Posts: 135
Quote:
Originally Posted by meltedpanda
I got some after market crap mounts and they proceeded to collapse in the short time I had them on less than 3-5 miles, complained to source with no response, I won't mention the name of the ever popular and much admired web based supplier of Benz parts that I no longer do business with.......Unless properly bribed
Are you suggesting that I should get my motor mounts from the dealership?
__________________
1991 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo (207000km) (now gone)
1993 Audi 100 CS Quattro (300000km)
1999 VW Jetta TDI (290000km)
2002 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro (150000km)
2005 MB E320 CDI (34000km)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-22-2005, 12:05 PM
96E300D 96E300D is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: So. Cal
Posts: 126
Consider yourself properly bribed, I just bought and installed some from ebay for my W210. They looked totally different, however I think it was for the better? These were made in Germany.
Matt Hemsley
So.CA
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-22-2005, 03:49 PM
Brandon314159
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by stayalert
I have an untested uneducated unexperienced theory - I guess it is more like a wild a$$ guess crossed with a chin scratching Hmmmmmm?

The passenger side mount is subject to violent tension (as opposed to compression) when the starter yanks the lump to life. It (passenger side) is subject to more heat from exhaust/turbo in the vacinity.

These thoughts are based on my personal experience having viewed/worked on 1 car with engine mounts that did not have the heat shields.....In my experience the passenger side mount was in much worse condition than the driver side.....
This all sounds good until someones primer pump on the drivers side leaks and soaks that mount with fuel and degrades it.
I guess both mounts take a pretty serious hit!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bad Engine Mounts wayne2970 Diesel Discussion 7 07-27-2006 11:13 PM
Engine Mounts....??? agood Tech Help 8 07-27-2006 11:09 PM
W201 engine mounts rah0ul Tech Help 3 02-09-2005 04:57 PM
Replaced engine mounts & shocks but engine vibrates louder. What cause(s)? simon288 Diesel Discussion 5 12-10-2002 03:05 PM
Engine shocks, how to tell when they're bad rickjordan Diesel Discussion 1 09-01-2001 01:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.