Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum > Technical Information and Support > Diesel Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-10-2007, 07:15 PM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Diesel purge question

Everybody seems to recommend that Diesel Purge from Liqui Moly, however there is only one retailer selling it here in Sweden and I'd have to mail order. A local auto parts store however carries another product, Injection Cleaner from STP. Anyone tried the STP cleaner? Does it work or would I better get the Liqui Moly product by mail order?

Thanks..
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-11-2007, 12:47 PM
blkntancj blkntancj is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 109
I would recommend the Diesel Purge. I believe the STP is just put into the tank of diesel and run through as you drive. The Diesel Purge is run directly into the motor at full strength. If you want an additive to add to the tank, I would look for Power Service Diesel Kleen.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-11-2007, 02:01 PM
tangofox007 tangofox007 is offline
USN Ret
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Evans, GA
Posts: 5,075
Quote:
Originally Posted by tompaah7503 View Post
A local auto parts store however carries another product, Injection Cleaner from STP. Anyone tried the STP cleaner? Does it work or would I better get the Liqui Moly product by mail order?

Thanks..
Leave the STP on the shelf. Diesel Purge is worth the extra effort.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-11-2007, 07:17 PM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Thanks. I misunderstood the homepage earlier, it was a distributor, not a reseller. Called them and they will be e-mailing me tomorrow about the nearest reseller of Diesel Purge. Will get a couple of cans, besides my OM617 we have a couple of those OM616-powered 307D trucks also that needs some.. purge.
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-11-2007, 10:28 PM
85chedeng300D 85chedeng300D is offline
Registered Voter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 425
...or if DP is out of pocket, just use straight vegetable oil to purge the system
__________________
'85 300D Turbo - CA Version
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:20 PM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Okay, so I couldn't get hold of any Diesel Purge. Distributor replied that they don't bring this product to Sweden (why they didn't say) but recommended some tank additive instead. Quite disappointed I went to the nearest parts store and bought what they had, a can of Wynn Diesel Clean-Up.

This seemed to work. Ran it not as instructed on the can (fill fuel filter with it) but as you members recommended running Diesel Purge, fuel lines squeezed into the can. Ran engine on idle, took a small trip and ran further on idle 'til can was near empty.


Then I fed the system with fresh fuel and connected the return hose to a bottle to see what was coming out. Yikes!

Here's some pictures too..
First, the Wynn product
Second, what flushed out.. (1,5 litres of black fuel 'til I gave up)
Third, fuel filter full of crud (replaced both filters after flushing)
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2.jpg
Views:	186
Size:	51.9 KB
ID:	45929   Click image for larger version

Name:	1.jpg
Views:	188
Size:	53.6 KB
ID:	45930   Click image for larger version

Name:	3.jpg
Views:	178
Size:	40.8 KB
ID:	45931  
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:25 PM
winmutt's Avatar
winmutt winmutt is offline
85 300D 4spd+tow+h4
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atl Gawga
Posts: 5,932
That blackness is algae. Get some biocide in there and start running through some tanks. Search on here there is plenty of information. Any place with diesel products will have biocide.
__________________
1985 300D
1984 TD "Smurfette".
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:37 PM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by winmutt View Post
That blackness is algae. Get some biocide in there and start running through some tanks. Search on here there is plenty of information. Any place with diesel products will have biocide.

You shure? Not just general crud from the fuel lines? That's what I thought it was..

Well I'd better be on the safe side and get me a bottle of that biocide stuff..
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:40 PM
winmutt's Avatar
winmutt winmutt is offline
85 300D 4spd+tow+h4
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atl Gawga
Posts: 5,932
Quote:
Originally Posted by tompaah7503 View Post
You shure? Not just general crud from the fuel lines? That's what I thought it was..

Well I'd better be on the safe side and get me a bottle of that biocide stuff..
Thats what the crud is. Algae loves diesel. You will need to keep extra fuel filters in the vehicle with necessary tools to change them out. I suggest just draining whatever is in there out now and starting with a fresh tank.
__________________
1985 300D
1984 TD "Smurfette".
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:43 PM
winmutt's Avatar
winmutt winmutt is offline
85 300D 4spd+tow+h4
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Atl Gawga
Posts: 5,932
oh my eyes. that is a disgrace to the dash. why dont you get the correct radio in there move the nasty toggle switch setup somewhere you cant see it?

nice ride otherwise
__________________
1985 300D
1984 TD "Smurfette".
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-12-2007, 06:59 PM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by winmutt View Post
oh my eyes. that is a disgrace to the dash. why dont you get the correct radio in there move the nasty toggle switch setup somewhere you cant see it?
nice ride otherwise
Yeah, I know. That radio was in the car for about four weeks, got a Becker unit instead from eBay. It isn't the correct one for a fintail but I wanted one with a cassette player, so I had to grind out the hole a bit. Moved the switches downstairs, they are really not that noticable hanging there under and I plan to make some other sertup for them in the future.. Smaller switches and darker wood propably.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	nisse.jpg
Views:	89
Size:	59.0 KB
ID:	45935  
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-12-2007, 07:58 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
pawoSD pawoSD is online now
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 11,034
That diesel cleanup stuff you got looks like re-branded Diesel Purge. Probably just as good. Seems odd you can't get Diesel Purge in Sweden, you're not all that far away from where its made!
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'82 300SD 284k -mine Mein Auto ist eine Geldgrube.... (OC-288,069)
'90 300E - 143k - wife's (OC- 144,823)
'82 300SD 320k -dad's (OC- 321,271)
'83 300D 235k - brother's (OC-11/14/10)
'83 300SD 306k -dad's (OC-306,270)
'93 190E 2.3 - 197k - sister's - (OC- 10/31/10)
'82 300SD - 300k+? - thrown rod - Parts car!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-12-2007, 10:31 PM
NTL1991 NTL1991 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pascoag, Rhode Island
Posts: 17
If you really want to get your hands on Diesel Purge, why not look on eBay and find out if anyone that is selling it ships to Sweden?

Nick
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-13-2007, 07:45 AM
tompaah7503's Avatar
tompaah7503 tompaah7503 is offline
Parts may fall off
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 241
Quote:
Originally Posted by NTL1991 View Post
If you really want to get your hands on Diesel Purge, why not look on eBay and find out if anyone that is selling it ships to Sweden?
Great idea, except that I already tried this more than once.. Sellers generally refuse to send hazmat stuff overseas or over longer distances.

Experience tells that out of a couple of hundred online store & eBay purchases I didn't receive one single chemical product that falls into the hazmat classification. Either the order has been completely canceled or the hazmat stuff was just plain left out of the shipment.

I'll stick with what's available, the Wynn stuff, it definitively does something, always better than nothing
__________________
Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwIxIe9ryE
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S with OM617.910, 5 speed manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRs0J0itKnA
1969 Mercedes Benz 280SE, gasser. Donor car Stripped, gutted, cut up, gone..
http://fatfranz.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-31-2007, 02:39 PM
chomamma chomamma is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 109
Dont think algie can live in total darkness, therefore not in a fuel tank. Maybe it is bacteria.
__________________
1990 300d 2.5 new to me.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.