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Old 10-25-2004, 03:47 AM
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Slow Brake Grind

hey folks,
I've just replaced calipers, rotors, pads and hoses all the way around on my 1984 300DT. They work very well at all speeds. However, I do feel a little bit of grinding from 5mph down to stopped. I've visually checked the rotors for scoring, but there isn't any. Any insights on this one?

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Joey Hundert
1984 300DT (Running 35% Biodiesel (winter blend))

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Old 10-25-2004, 10:44 AM
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Did you bed the brake pads in by making half a dozen successive firm stops from highway speed, say, 65 mph? That might help.

Russ M
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Old 10-25-2004, 01:31 PM
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Did you put back the brake shims?
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Old 10-25-2004, 01:51 PM
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Yes,
I put the shims (by this I suppose you mean the pins and the anti-rattle spring) back, and promptly made about 12 stops from 70mph, full force. They perform so well, I was truly surprised - thats a lot of mass to haul down so quickly! I'll have her on jacks in about 2 days, so I'm going to inspect more closely.

Thanks so far,

Joey Hundert
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Old 10-25-2004, 03:10 PM
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does you car have ABS?
and is it that kind of pulsating grinding or is it more menacing.

which if you did and it was might mean a bad wheel speed sensor.
or less likley somthings bad somewhere else in ABS system -pumping brake's when it should not.
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:23 AM
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Yes,
I put the shims (by this I suppose you mean the pins and the anti-rattle spring) back, and promptly made about 12 stops from 70mph, full force. They perform so well, I was truly surprised - thats a lot of mass to haul down so quickly! I'll have her on jacks in about 2 days, so I'm going to inspect more closely.

Thanks so far,

Joey Hundert
1984 300D burnin' grease

I mean the metal plates that are on the back of the brake pads. Mine had them on the previous brake pads, but re-used them from the previous set of used brake pads. Mine are the ATE fixed caliper type-'92 400E. I do not know if that makes a difference. I am guessing it shouldn't. If you do. You should apply MB brake grease, if recommended for your model. You might also want to check your rotors and wheel bearings also.
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:24 PM
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I, too, have a similar problem with my 92 500sel.

Brakes seem to work fine EXCEPT a metal to metal grinding noise (just like worn brakes) from 5mph or less ONLY. No grinding, pulsing, or noise anywhere else.

The brakes were done (just before I bought the car 10k miles ago), and the pads appear to have plenty of meat and there are no scores are other apparent wear to the rotors...

-David
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Old 10-26-2004, 06:02 PM
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Yes,
I put the shims (by this I suppose you mean the pins and the anti-rattle spring) back, and promptly made about 12 stops from 70mph, full force.
That's not a good way to break-in new brakes! You should have made a number of moderate stops from about 25-30 Mph, (while letting the brakes cool in between) then a few more moderate stops from about 45-50 Mph to break them in.

You could have damaged or cracked the pads the way you broke them in and that's why they're making a grinding sound...

Did you use new rotors? Or, were the old ones turned? A lip at the edge of the rotor along with new pads could also cause the problem you're describing.
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Old 10-26-2004, 06:14 PM
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hey folks,
I've just replaced calipers, rotors, pads and hoses all the way around on my 1984 300DT.

Joey Hundert
1984 300DT (Running 35% Biodiesel (winter blend))
Bed in brake pads
-Stop 5 to 8 times from 50 to 25 mph (80 to 40 kph)
with light pedel pressure.
-Allow brakes to cool between application.
-Avoid hard stops during this procedure.

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