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Old 11-01-2004, 06:41 PM
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85 190e - is it 8- or 16-valve?

I just got a used 85 190e 2.3, but it was imported from Germany by the original owner and the VIN doesn't cross at Mercedes to anything (actually they think it's a 2001)

Is there an easy way to tell which engine it is? It's got an automatic, which I understand should mean 8 valves, but I want to be sure, and I don't want to take off the valve cover.


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Old 11-01-2004, 06:56 PM
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It's a 102, 2.3 liter 8 valve.

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Old 11-01-2004, 07:10 PM
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Does the valve cover have any writing on it? More than likely a 2.3 8V.

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What are the first 6 digits of the VIN number?? That will tell what engine is in the car
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:03 AM
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The way I understand it, from an external appearance stand point, the valve cover should be embossed with 16V. As well the 16 valve engine has the spark plugs going through the valve cover.

On the right side of the engine (exhaust side) you will notice a "Number" stamped on a machined area of the crankcase. Perhaps this number is of more value, especially when you need to obtain parts.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:53 PM
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It's as simple as opening the hood . . . and looking at the valve cover . . . "Mercedes-Benz" on the first line, then "2.3-16" on the second. Pretty darn simple. The body modifications, the sport seating, the VDO gauge cluster in the center console are also hints, but the proof is in the engine bay.

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Old 11-03-2004, 04:53 PM
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it!

I'll post a new thread about "can I put a 16v in an 8v car and how much of a pain is it?"
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Old 11-03-2004, 05:26 PM
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No need to start a new thread, just use search please . . . it's been asked and answered. Along with turbocharging, supercharging, V-8's, Toyota Twin Turbo swaps, the AMG 3.2, and where can you get an EVO or EVO II in North America . . .

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