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Old 03-17-2005, 11:05 AM
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i guess the i in 750iL stands for fuel injection
We have 750iAL here when A stand for automatic tranny

SE mean s-class with fuel injection
For the E-class they have diesel like 250D and 300D
and in the early model like W123/124/201, when the first model come, they dont have any letter behind the number, you can find W123 230 W124 200/W201 190

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Old 03-17-2005, 11:36 AM
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When an I isn't an I

Well, maybe except that the German word for fuel injection is einspritzung. The e that they used in the 80's (ex. 325e) stood for ETA, a type of engine that they used that had low revs and was supposed to use less fuel.

I even asked the zone rep for BMW at the time and he didn't know.
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Old 03-17-2005, 11:51 AM
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i guess the i in 750iL stands for fuel injection
We have 750iAL here when A stand for automatic tranny

SE mean s-class with fuel injection
For the E-class they have diesel like 250D and 300D
and in the early model like W123/124/201, when the first model come, they dont have any letter behind the number, you can find W123 230 W124 200/W201 190
The L on the 740iL is for Long. USA only gets Long versions of the S class and 7 series and A8 series as well. Later this year or next year we in the USA are supposedly getting the Short Wheel Based S class as well. In the S350 form. Not sure if BMW and Audi will do the same. Personally I love the styling of the S class but it is too big for my tastes. Right now it is not an issue since I have no need for anything larger than a C class. But in the future who knows.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:40 PM
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SE meant Super Einspritz (sp?). Cars like the 220S had carbs and the 220SE fuel injection. Then came the 230S, 250S, 280S, all with carbs. There were also 220SE, 250SE and 280SE as well as 300SEL, 280SEL which were the long chassis versions of the regular cars.


What if you wanted a long wheelbase version of the carburettored 280S? You might end up ordering an 280SL, and get completely the wrong car (a 2-door 2-seat sports car..)! I guess they just never made long wheelbase non-injection models..

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<< The only thing you can be sure of is D >>

Not always. The D in the 300D of the 1950's was for Diplomatic. It was a gasoline model.
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Off topic but the 740I never came to the US? I saw a very sharp black 740I about a week ago, it looked like a short 740IL.
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<< The only thing you can be sure of is D >>

Not always. The D in the 300D of the 1950's was for Diplomatic. It was a gasoline model.
The W189 is a 300d where the lower case d implies the fourth revision of the original 300, which is actually a W186. The badge on a W186 or W189 reads only 300. There is no d or D suffix. There may have been diplomatic versions of these cars but I'll bet my neighbor's cats that they don't have a D as part of the badge either.

If anything, the 1954 300SL was the first production MB with fuel injection so it should have been a 300SLE The first MB to bear an E for fuel injection is the 1958 220SE.

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Off topic but the 740I never came to the US? I saw a very sharp black 740I about a week ago, it looked like a short 740IL.
It was not at first but hell it may be now. I have only ever seen the IL. Maybe why MB decided to bring over the shorty S!
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What if you wanted a long wheelbase version of the carburettored 280S? You might end up ordering an 280SL, and get completely the wrong car (a 2-door 2-seat sports car..)! I guess they just never made long wheelbase non-injection models..

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Actually, there was no confusion at all with this topic at the time: All long wheel-base W126 models ("L") had fuel injected engines. The original line up for the W126 at the time of introduction (late 1980) in Germany was:

280 S
280 SE
280 SEL
380 SE
380 SEL
500 SE
500 SEL

Later, the W126 models grew up into:

260 SE
300 SE
300 SEL
420 SE
420 SEL
500 SE
500 SEL
560 SE
560 SEL
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300 SD
300 SDL
350 SDL

Note: Not all models were sold at all markets.
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:07 PM
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There's also a 350SD. And the W126 series includes the SECs.

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The 740I had a nice set of wheels and looked like a late body style, Right before the new 745's. (ugh) It also had a Yale sticker in the rear windsheild, I think that says it all. I go to school pretty close to Yale and get buzzed by M3's, LS400/430's ect all of the time with the proper Yale sticker on them.
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740i

In Canada, we have had 740i and 740iL models for as long as I can remember. The i is just a shorter version of exactly the same car. This continued until the new ugly model came out.

The new style is called the 745i and 745Li.

One of my friends has a 745i (new style) and another has a 740i (old style). They're quite common around here.

We also have the new S-class in a short wheelbase, which isn't available in the States. If I recall correctly, all S500 models are long wheelbase but the S430 is available in short or long configurations.

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