As we all know the M104 engine has head gasket problems, mine needs replaced and there are 3 different brands available from FastLane. Is any one better then the others? This is the second time my head gasket will be replaced, I thought MB fixed the problem with an updated part? The first time it was replaced about 60K miles ago, it was replaced with the Mercedes Benz part.

Can anyone confirm the part was updated/changed, was there a part number change? Is there a better brand or package from the three suppliers? (Goetze,Reinz,Elring)

Thanks,
Brad

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1986 190E 186K (For Sale)
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1996 C280 Sport 208K
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2002 CLK430 Sport 45K
(Brilliant Silver, Gray Leather , Birdseye Maple)

I replaced mine. I had no brand preference. I put in whatever Phil from Fastlane recommended.

The replacement head gasket is improved. I personally saw the problem area reinforced with some type of insert.

original ------ PN 104 016 25 20
replacement - PN 104 016 28 20

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95 E320 Cabriolet, 159K

Use only the Elring ON THAT engine!!!!!!

The others are good but Don't have the reinforcement around the oil pressure passages!

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i agree with m.b. doc

Can anyone tell me if the new head gasket part was used in the head gasket set, Part # 104-010-37-20? The gasket was last replaced Aug 17th 2001, that was the part number for the set purchased, at least thats what shows on my records.

Thanks,
Brad

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1986 190E 186K (For Sale)
(Maroon, Tan leather)
1996 C280 Sport 208K
(Brilliant Silver, Black Leather)
2002 CLK430 Sport 45K
(Brilliant Silver, Gray Leather , Birdseye Maple)