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Old 07-02-2005, 04:17 AM
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The cables have been replaced a month ago. This happens in sun, rain, hot and cold weather. I am running out of options. I might just replace the alternator and see what happens. The alternator in the car right now was a rebuilt. I changed it 4 years ago for the cost of $120.00 CND.

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Old 07-02-2005, 08:56 AM
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1-If you jumpstart it, do you leave the other car running?
2-Do you hear the starter relay if you try to start?
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:00 AM
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As soon as my 300E is started I turn the other car off.

Where is the starter relay located? I really have not paid any attention for any other sound. As soon as I find where the relay is I will Listen for it.

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Fab
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fab
The cables have been replaced a month ago. This happens in sun, rain, hot and cold weather. I am running out of options. I might just replace the alternator and see what happens. The alternator in the car right now was a rebuilt. I changed it 4 years ago for the cost of $120.00 CND.
Y'know...for what you're spending throwing parts at it, you could have just taken it to a shop.
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:35 AM
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Next time it's not starting try moving the shifter to neutral and see if it starts.
(could be an intermitant neutral saftey switch)
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Old 07-02-2005, 11:51 AM
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The starter relay (solenoid) is mounted on top of the starter motor. The big cable from the battery goes direct to this solenoid. If you start you should hear a loud click. If you jumpstart with a running engine the voltage is higher than normal. This may kick the soleniod into action.

I usually test is with a hand starter switch, two wires with clamps attached to a switch. you clamp them to the big cable and the + of the solenoid. Be carefull with this, the big cable is not protected with a fuse.

If the solenoid is working but not with the contact switch, the resistance of the contact switch or the neutral/park switch may be to high (burned or foul).

A DC amp meter makes this sort of diagnostics much easier. You can see where the electicity goes and how much.

And stop jumpstarting, if you have a really bad switch or wire you can start a fire! or ruin expensive electronics.
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Old 07-04-2005, 03:59 AM
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I tried everything that was suggested and the car still would not start so I decided to bring my car to a mechanic. The mechanic said it was the starter. I replaced the starter and the car starts everytime no problem. Thanks everyone for all your help. This site is incredable.

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Fab

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