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boneheaddoctor · #16 07-21-2005, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csnow

I think folks look at the cans side-by-side and figure that the stuff with 'performance enhancer' or 'stop leak' is an upgrade from the plain stuff.

Who wouldn't want 'performance enhancer' for just a little more money, right?

The unfortunate thing is the vicious cycle this sets up in the marketplace. Folks look for a quick-fix-in-a-can because getting their AC serviced is so expensive. All the assorted crap moving about in AC systems is a major cost factor for AC technicians, and the cycle repeats...

I think thats what they have in mind....creat a more lucrative market for stuff they idiot back yard guy with a wrench screws up, with his "expertise".

rdanz · #17 07-21-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBible

DON'T USE STOPLEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will very possibly totally destroy the system with that stuff. If you get a leak it reacts with the air and can turn the ENTIRE system into a gunked up mess. I'm surprised that one of these stop leak companies haven't been hit with a class action lawsuit.

Just find the leak, repair it and recharge.

Good luck,

Larry
What should the duct temp be inside the car?

samiam4 · #18 07-29-2005, 10:57 PM

"there is this new stuff out that is compatible with r-12 you can just add to the system... i did it and it works great...

i think its called freeze 12 and i got it on ebay...
"

Blue ranger,

NOTE: This is illegal to mix other refregerants(read 609). The proper proceedure is to remove the R-12 , change the fittings and clearly identify the system's new content.

Michael

pwogaman · #19 07-31-2005, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

. . . When they tell me that they have put in stopleak, I tell them that I am not able to help them. For one reason, I don't want my expensive equipment to be exposed to the stuff and the other is that it is almost always major surgery to fix it for the long term. . .

LarryBible - have you had an opportunity to develop an impression of the sealant remover filters such as those available on e-bay? See link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7989595858&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

If so - what is it?

pwogaman · #20 07-31-2005, 10:14 PM

Larry?

dkveuro · #21 07-31-2005, 11:10 PM

The Interdynamics Stop leak will solidify when it contacts moisture.
To quote them ....
" Our Maxi Seal (MRL-2) seals both rubber and metal leaks. The metal leak sealer works by reacting with air and condensed moisture outside the system at the site of the leak...."

So you see, if the system has any moisture, it will seal up INSIDE the system too .
If you evacuate a system with any kind of Leak Stop you effectively destroy your recovery machine. Period !

I have stopped using any recovery machine...I send it to a shop with L/Stop and gas identifier equipment...if it gets a positive....job declined.

.

pwogaman · #22 08-01-2005, 08:08 PM

Somebody at Interdynamics needs to go to jail (a personal opinion).

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