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Old 01-31-2001, 02:12 PM
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Hi, I recently purchased from my father-in-law a 1984 190e 2.0 with only 65,000 miles on it, but I have some minor problems that I wonder if someone else has experienced them:

i) The ignition key sometimes doesn't turn and I can't start the car! Seems like the steering wheel lock "locks" the switch so hard that I can't turn the key...I have left the car in a shopping mall parking lot because I couldn't start it.

ii) I have to add brake fluid every week, maybe 1/4 of the clear plastic reservoir in the motor trunk. Is this normal?

iii) When it rains, I get water on the back trunk side compartments. I have read about water in the trunk on other sites but they mention something about the glass rubber seal. I don't think this is coming from the glass.

Please bear my English, and I could clarify some items if anybody needs it.

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Old 01-31-2001, 04:07 PM
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Edgares,

i) mercedes has a lot of trouble with their ignition locks. If you are not able to turn the key (even not when you turn the steering wheel left and right as far as it goes), your ignition lock is breaking down. The inner part of the lock needs to be replaced (common problem with the W201 and W124) and if I may advise you: get it done ASAP. It is an easy job as long as the ignition lock still turns (5min) but it is a hell of a job once the key can not be turned any more (half a day+).

ii) loosing brake fluid is not normal... Take a look at the calipers whether they are leaking fluid or not. It is possible as well that the cylinders of the clutch-system are leaking as well (manual transmission only); this is a common problem for the manual shifted benzes as well.

iii) If you have raindrops in the trunk on the side panels, the rear window is definitely leaking. Take a flash light and look up through the ventilation holes in the top of the trunk, just below the rear window behind the rubber trunk sealing. You will probably see water drops there and even some rust...

Hopes this helps, and your english is clear enough...

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Old 02-05-2001, 12:34 PM
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Thanks for the info...

Thanks for the quick help...will look into the brake thing, but regarding the ignition switch, I have a Haynes manual that tells me that in order to remove the switch I have to take out the steering wheel which in turn requires that I remove the dash...etc. Looks like the "half-day+" job you say. Some questions: do I need to change ignition keys? is there a place/document describing the 5 min. procedure that you know of?

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Old 02-05-2001, 05:35 PM
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Edgares,

You do not have to remove the entire ignition switch (incl. the housing) as long as you are able to turn the key!
If you take a close look at your ignition lock, you can see two little round spaces/opening between the gray part of the ignition lock itself and the black cover around it.
If you turn the key, these spaces will rotate over a similar sized "shaft". At the bottom of this "shaft" is a locking pin that needs to be depressed in order to be able to get the lock cylinder out.
This lock cylinder is the part that makes it impossible to turn the key so now and then. As long as you can turn the ignition lock, you can have someone with the proper tool (a U-pin that can be stuck in with a certain size and tapped ends) to get it out easy.
If you try to stick in an improper pin, you can damage the locking pin and you will have to face the fact to get out the steering column.
My advice is to go to a MB dealer and let them get it out; it is a peace of cake (as long as the lock can still be turned). BTW: do not lubricate the lock with anything at all; it will make the lock unusable; you will not be able to turn it anymore afterwards.
I do not know whether there is a doc. about this procedure, but you better do not try it yourself (this is about the #1 do-it-yourself-screw-up-mistake one can make).

If you go to the dealer, they should be having a temporary lock cylinder to install (we have them as well, since these locks tend to break down every 2-300.000km). The dealer is able to order a new ignition lock by chassis#; it will take a few weeks, but then you get a lock that fits the original key.

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