removal of grill emblem - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

TheDon · #1 12-24-2005, 03:14 PM

w123 chasis 300D

i know how to get the hood start out but not the round emblem that goes on the chrome part of the grill. anyone have any idea how to? the online manual doesnt cover that

Joe Bauers · #2 12-24-2005, 03:33 PM

Should be a nut on the back side of the grill holding it in place. Probably 7 or 8mm, as I recall.

Joe B.

TheDon · #3 12-24-2005, 03:36 PM

i looked and it looks like it has a foam like glue on it. ill pick at it til something goes .. would you also know if the hood star has some sort of glue on it.. mine appears to have some sort of glue residue peeking out from the base

Roncallo · #4 12-26-2005, 09:24 AM

If it is like the 560 SL, Then it is just pushed out. The SL has a hole in the hood that a nylon gromet is installed in. The emblem has a post that inserts into the gromet and expands it, holding it in place. It takes a lot of force to push it back out from the underside of the hood.

John Roncallo

Benzmeister · #5 12-26-2005, 10:57 AM

emblem. On this car the emblem consited of a emblem two plastic gromments, a plate and two nuts to secure. I changed the old emblem on my 79 450SLC and all that was need was the emblem for the car an one plastic grommet, however it does not hold well, but that is what the dealer and a few after market dealers shows as the assembly. I think I'n going to glue it down as water is getting under there and I have a rust free 450SLC and want to keep it that way.

Benzmeister · #6 12-26-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Roncallo

If it is like the 560 SL, Then it is just pushed out. The SL has a hole in the hood that a nylon gromet is installed in. The emblem has a post that inserts into the gromet and expands it, holding it in place. It takes a lot of force to push it back out from the underside of the hood.

John Roncallo

your 500, however I can't get the grommet to stay in place, how did you get it to stay down. I applied as much force as I coud but the rear post keeps on popping up thus making the front post come up? I see when it expands but it seems it didn't expand. See my other post on my search for the proper fittings. I perhaps should have kept the old grommet as you said it takes a lot of force, I used a nail punch from underneath to pot out the old one.

Joe Bauers · #7 12-26-2005, 05:37 PM

On the 123s, though, I still think it is held in place by a single nut, attached to the stud coming off the back of the emblem. I have seen cases, however, where someone tried to take the nut off and, because of corrosion, broke the stud off. If you are seeing white glue-like stuff around it, perhaps that is what happened--someone broke it off, then glued it to keep it in place. Just speculating.

Joe B.

Benzmeister · #8 12-26-2005, 08:35 PM

in the front hole. But when I went to the dealer to buy a new emblem and grommet as I figured I might as well replace this also. They had three different part numbers for the emblem the first two wer superceded by the third. Also list was the grommet and a "clip", but the clip was superceded by the grommet. So I bought two grommets, problem is the emblem doesn't stay in the grommet either, and the new grommet is too big for the top hole. I tried slipping a screw clip over the top prong, but I couldn't get my hand up there and you working in the blind as the top hole is under and forward of the the opening for the latch. I took off the latch holder as it is screw to the hood, but still could't get a clip on it, I tried pressing the other grommet from underneath, but it fell off. I did get an extra emblem fromthe dealer as I brought all the pieces back, they told me to keep them and gave me another emblem. One thing I did notice, both on the original emblem and new emblem after I tried to install them, and took them out the front prong was bent forward, meaning to me the two holes are wider then the emblem prongs. On the second emblem I am going to try and cut the prong down the middle with a dremel and a very small cutting wheel and attempt to spread them with a screw driver once they are in. Or if worse comes to worse, I try cuttin the prongs off with the dremel, at the emblem is base metal and soft. Also even with the emblem sitting as far down as it will go into the gommet, it still sticks up a pit. this is the third emblem I have tried, the first one I bought online and is OEM, but as soon as i startes to press it in it fell just popped out. So I don't think it is me, and there is either another emblem or another holding piece that is not listed. Go to www.coolcarparts.com and take a look at the emblem kit. It states with the emblem you have to order a clip with a part number and a gromment, but the clip turned out to be the grommet. I know confusing, but also furstrating. I have never had this problem with emblems before.

Roncallo · #9 12-26-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzmeister

your 500, however I can't get the grommet to stay in place, how did you get it to stay down. I applied as much force as I coud but the rear post keeps on popping up thus making the front post come up? I see when it expands but it seems it didn't expand. See my other post on my search for the proper fittings. I perhaps should have kept the old grommet as you said it takes a lot of force, I used a nail punch from underneath to pot out the old one.

I installed mine by placing the gromet in the hole in the hood first, then pressing the emblenm into the whole in the gromet. I used a new gromet and emblem. The rear hole is just a guide.

John Roncallo

Benzmeister · #10 12-27-2005, 06:54 AM

the one grommet. I am still wondering is the emblems I bought are the correct ones, considering the part number business I wrote of? Do you happen to have the part number for the emblem you installed? Thanks!

TheDon · #11 12-28-2005, 02:17 PM

it appears that the grill emblem was broken and then glued onto the chrome.. !!! this is going to be fun to remove in one piece.

Benzmeister · #12 12-29-2005, 09:54 AM

and I think I have the wrong emblem. The pictures of the SL's I saw had a crhome emblem, which was on my car. But I thought it had the blue paint worn off after 26 years. Now I am thinking I took off the correct emblem for nothing?

TheDon · #13 12-29-2005, 10:11 AM

glue ? my emblem i got from fastlane is not oem but ill live with it til i can go to the dealer and get an oem one

the new hood star swoops back a lil like the new ones.. looks pretty hep .. but what whould i do to get the old grill emblem off that is glued on???

Benzmeister · #14 12-29-2005, 12:35 PM

or 3M General purpose adhesive removed, I believe this is safe for paint finishes also. DON'T USE ACETONE as it will melt the paint off. It you used Crazy Glue then good luck.

Also the emblem you got from Fast Lane is the same emblem a Mercedes Dealer will give you. I been this route.

TheDon · #15 12-29-2005, 12:55 PM

i took the whole grill assembly off i have 5 of the 6 screws need to find that other one lol.. im also going to take the grill screen off too since im getting a new one.. ill find some rubbing alchohol.

i didnt glue the emblem on it was like that from the p/o or maybe the og owner.. i need to find a nut to fit the new emblem and also put that new hood star on