C220 Won't Start or Turnover. Any Ideas??please help - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

trueog · #1 04-27-2006, 02:12 PM

Hey guys, Last nite I went to the corner store, as soon as I returned to my car to start it, it strugglled to turnover and the rpm needles were flying back and forth. After a few seconds of struggle, the turnover stopped and the car went silent. Repeat attempts to re-start the car were met with silence, no turnover noise or anything. I can hear the feul pump starting up when I put it into ignition, however there's no turnover or anything.

Anyone know what's wrong? I'm wondering if its the starter? Please help, thanks.

trueog · #2 04-27-2006, 02:46 PM

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Ali Al-Chalabi · #3 04-27-2006, 03:47 PM

Core price is the additional charge you incur if you do not return a rebuildable core to them.

How is the battery in the car?

trueog · #4 04-27-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali Al-Chalabi

Core price is the additional charge you incur if you do not return a rebuildable core to them.

How is the battery in the car?

Thanks for the reply.
Battery's fine. Its been 24 hours now and its in my driveway. Everything powers up, but engine doesn't turn. Could it be the timing chain? its weird how this thing died. Anyone got ideas?

trueog · #5 04-28-2006, 02:35 AM

I went and talked to a mech down the street today, he doesn't work on euro's.... His idea was to check the relays as he feels it might be an electrical problem causing my car to not turn over rather then even the starter. Is their a relay on my car for the starter? and if yes, is it also under the fuse box? and which one is it? all idea's or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Arthur Dalton · #6 04-28-2006, 03:53 AM

If, by Turn-Over, you mean the car will not Crank.. then try "N" instead of "P" on the gear selector.
If it then cranks, the NSS is suspect .

shandy · #7 04-28-2006, 05:25 AM

Probably a faulty battery, when the battery voltage on MB cars drops below 11v the starter circuit will not energise, this is intended to save power for what they call life support ; lights, telephone,residual heat. If your battery is more than 5 years old it's time for a new one ,you can't bump start an automatic.
Geo.

trueog · #8 04-29-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton

If, by Turn-Over, you mean the car will not Crank.. then try "N" instead of "P" on the gear selector.
If it then cranks, the NSS is suspect .

Hey Arthur. Yea when I try to start the car, their is no clicking, not attept to start...its silent. I sometmes hear the fuel pump because its so quiet. I tryed to start it in N but it was the same thing, no sign of life. Battery power seems fine as everything powers up. Whats the NSS? Please elaborate. Thanks

Arthur Dalton · #9 04-29-2006, 07:52 AM

Neutral Safety Switch..

Check archieves..

How did you test battery??

tobybul · #10 04-29-2006, 08:07 AM

I too have a C220 (96 - 278k miles). Haven't had this problem. If u would have said it turns but doesn't start, then it most likely is the ant-theft engine disabler. Simply lock and unlock vehicle with remote key or key on door.

It could be that you've drained the battery after soooo many attempts that it won't turn anymore. Have u tried jumping? If it turns when u jump, try the above suggestion.

It happens to me once in a while.

trueog · #11 04-30-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Arthur Dalton

Neutral Safety Switch..

Check archieves..

How did you test battery??

Hey Arthur... My battery has powered up and lit everything up perfectly fine, but I still tested the battery by jumping it to my wifes car. I left the car's connected for almost 20 minutes, and there was still no sign of life. Everything electrial powers up on the car, however that's the only signs of life it has.

Do you think I have an electrical problem? as my RPM needles were flying back and forth when the car died on me. Also I was looking into you're nss suggestion and that makes sense also, I'm going to get the car towed and have an indy mech check for the nss on tuesday. If you have any other suggestions or idea's let me know,

THanks for all you're advice.

trueog · #12 04-30-2006, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tobybul

I too have a C220 (96 - 278k miles). Haven't had this problem. If u would have said it turns but doesn't start, then it most likely is the ant-theft engine disabler. Simply lock and unlock vehicle with remote key or key on door.

It could be that you've drained the battery after soooo many attempts that it won't turn anymore. Have u tried jumping? If it turns when u jump, try the above suggestion.

It happens to me once in a while.

Hey, thanks for the reply. I have infact tried jump starting the car with the same results. I have had problems with my anti theft in the past, and i've simply locked and unlocked my doors to get around it. Infact my problem right now is identical to the start problems inoccured when anti theft has kicked in, however this time that's not the case. Any more suggesntions?

thanks

trueog · #13 05-01-2006, 11:26 PM

Are there any warning signs that the NSS is about to go? anyone been able to change it and how hard is it? I've tried searching the net for the part, and none of the parts sites have been able to show me a picture of the part...actually I can't even find the part with its name. So if anyone can help me figure out how to search for it, i'd be thanks ful

take care

tobybul · #14 05-02-2006, 02:51 PM

There seems to be no question that its an electrical problem. Have you plugged in an OBD II scanner yet? You can find an obd 2 from some chain parts store and they let you use it for free. Around my area Autozone lets customers use them on the spot. This may give you a clue to whats happening.

Oooops... I think OBD's started in 96. Not sure.

trueog · #15 05-02-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tobybul

There seems to be no question that its an electrical problem. Have you plugged in an OBD II scanner yet? You can find an obd 2 from some chain parts store and they let you use it for free. Around my area Autozone lets customers use them on the spot. This may give you a clue to whats happening.

Oooops... I think OBD's started in 96. Not sure.

THanks TonyBul. Yes the OBD II standard applies to all car's 96 and newer...but that year means it was adopted as a standard in north america that year and was in a sense mandatory on all car's made in 96 and after. However I know 94 and newer C-Classes were already OBD II compliant, so It does work on these car's, i'm not sure if mercedes adopted the OBD II standard universally on all models at that time.