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Old 03-19-2001, 06:46 PM
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The company that MAKES the camber bushings is K-MAC, Truechoice sells them for $325 a set. Their part number is 502026. AT dealer we slot the subframe & make cams to adjust the rear camber for this problem!! Truechoice is http://www.truechoice.com.
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Old 03-19-2001, 10:30 PM
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Or you can try the Delsing camber arms for only $295/pair.

Check out:
http://www.delsingmotorsport.com/

I'm installing these for our lowered & AMG'd M104 W124 wagon.

:-) neil
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Old 03-19-2001, 10:44 PM
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Found the K-Mac also at Nascarpalce at $276.

http://www.nascarplace.com/kmac/itmidx9.htm

I'd go with the links myself.

:-) neil
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Old 03-19-2001, 11:02 PM
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Mikey...

I read all your posts on that previous thread and couldn't agree with you more. Keep this in mind as you read this post: I own a body shop and a garage here in Houston and my family has been in this business for just over 31 years. My opinion here reflects both the views of a shop owner and a DIYer.

On the subject of changing the springs:

1. You NEED the right tools. When you have the right
tools, danger is never COMPLETELY eliminated, but
tremendously reduced. You need common sense. I have
changed springs in my life that sometimes a spring
compressor will NEVER work. Here, you just have to use
a little brains and come up with a way to do the job
while minimizing the danger potential as much as
possible.

2. I changed all four of my springs in my 92 400E in
just over an hour and a half. And thats only because
it was my first time doing it on this car. I had
access to a car lift, air tools, and a transmission
jack, which made the job quicker and safer.

Like MBDOC said, what you are CHARGED for isn't usually how
long it takes. Labor times are defined in a book or in a computer. They are defined by the average tech doing the job with the correct tools. Keep in mind, when you pay $72/hour at the shop, the tech dosn't ACTUALLY get $72/hour. Sometimes he may get half that. The rest of the money is figured into shop expenses, etc. My greatest competition is the local Dealerships. For all the "big" jobs, I charge time by the book. If the tech can do it in less, I'll take a little time off the labor, and let the customer know that I did this. This keeps my customers happy and my bays full. Also, most independent shops don't charge as much per hour as the dealership.

Peter
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Old 03-19-2001, 11:05 PM
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Peter,
I am with you on this one. You do what you want,like and makes you happy with your car. IT IS YOUR CAR!!!!
On the other hand, be prepare to pay the price for your decision(s), in a positive or negative way.
There are so many after market companies out there that are making nice profits improving and individualizing MB stock cars i.e. renntech, fab design, and lets not forget AMG (now part of Mercedes).
Different strokes for different folks...
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M.B.DOC....

I like the idea of making the cams...this is probably what I'm going to try. My biggest concern though, is not how to bring the bottom of the wheel in, but if by doing that will there be any affect on the axle shaft. Is there enough "play" in the axle shaft for the bottom of the wheel to come in at all? Again... I am more concerned with any "side effects" of bring the camber in, particularly axle clearance.

Thanks to EVERYONE so far for their great ideas!!!

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Old 03-20-2001, 09:17 AM
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Whether you make cams or use special bushings the lower arm will come in, upto 0.5". About 2deg of camber change. NEVER any problem with axle interference.
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