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06-27-2005, 09:59 PM
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Manual Tranny Rebuild Kit?
Hello All,
I am looking into transplanting the 5spd manual from our dead 190E into my 300E but the tranny has 225k miles on it. If I'm going to all that trouble, I was thinking it might be worth rebuilding it first. Are the parts available? Is this something a competent DIYer can do? (I've rebuilt both diesel and gasser engines but never any kind of tranny.) I know it's due for a clutch/PP/throwout set, but that's all external. Any advise is welcome! Cheers, -Matt-
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Currently: 1972 350SL Euro 4spd 1973 BMW R75/5 1981 BMW R80GS 1995 FZJ80 with OM606 Conversion In Progress 
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06-28-2005, 08:25 AM
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All parts for a manual trans are available here (USA)! HOWEVER that is one of the most difficult manual boxes to rebuild! MB used tapered bearings on the main shafts & require several special tools to set the correct pre-load!
A 190E trans won't take the torque that a 300E engine makes!
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator
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06-28-2005, 08:36 AM
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Unless there is something wrong with a manual transmission there is absolutely no need to rebuild it. If they are driven correctly they will outlast any other component of the car at least 3 to 1.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Good luck,
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05-26-2006, 02:36 PM
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Any more input? I am planning a trans swap in the 190D, picked up pedals, driveshaft, shifter + linkage, and a known bad trans (trans was free).
I could either look into tearing this one down, or buy one with 64K miles for $450.  Thanks, John 
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1986 190D, 2.5L, 5-speed swap, 180,000 Miles (60K by me). Jeep CJ-7 with Cummins 4BT/NV4500/AtlastII 4.3. Grand Wagoneer 4BT project in progress!
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05-26-2006, 03:04 PM
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Question:
Is the engine a 2.3 M102 4 cylinder or a 2.6 M103 6 cylinder?
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5 speed '91 190E 2.6 320,000 mi. (new car, fast, smooth as silk six, couldn't find any more Peugeots) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.5l Turbo Diesel 266,000 mi. (old car, fast for a diesel, had 2 others) 5 speed '01 Jetta V6 (new wifes car, pretty quick) 5 speed '85 Peugeot 505 2.2l Turbo Gas 197,000 mi. (wifes car, faster, sadly gone just short of 200k ) 5 speed '83 Yamaha 750 Maxim 14,000 mi. (fastest) 0 speed 4' x 8' 1800 lb Harbor Freight utility trailer (only as fast as what's pulling it)
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05-26-2006, 07:12 PM
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i am with larry. if nothing is acting up dont mess with it. perhaps put on seals. nothing more. tom w
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.  [SIGPIC]..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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