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Old 07-11-2006, 07:02 PM
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Any thoughts on 50 or 60 weight oil to quiet an engine knock?

While it’s not a M-B I’m sure many in this forum have opinions on motor oil. It’s an early 80’s Cadillac with the 4.1L engine that has a bottom end knock at idle when warm. I can’t hear it when cold or if I rev the engine so I assume its excessive clearance in the bearings somewhere. Since it doesn’t knock when cold at which time the oil is thick, why not have the oil thick like that all the time (discounting the cold start problems for now) by using 50 or 60 weight or even 70 weight oil? This is a cheap beater so actually fixing the problem is not an option.

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Old 07-11-2006, 07:18 PM
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i wouldnt go right to something that thick, but i would definately step up a couple of viscosity levels.

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Old 07-11-2006, 08:33 PM
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Hi there,
Those 4.1 engines had a problem with cam bearings. The cam bearings would come loose in the block and slide endways on the cam. My brother had one- the front cam bearing had come clear out of the block and the engine lost oil pressure because of it. It was still running ok but with a knock when I took it out and put a 4.5 engine in. They fixed the problem on the 4.5's. So it might not make any difference, or might not even be a good idea to put heavier weight oil in. If it's a leaky cam bearing, all the heavier oil will do is starve the mains. If you do go with a heavier oil, don't go TOO heavy, you might regret it!
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Old 07-11-2006, 08:44 PM
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I'd try a nice 20w50 from Walmart. If its a beater you have nothing to lose.
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Old 07-11-2006, 09:48 PM
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Answer:

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While it’s not a M-B I’m sure many in this forum have opinions on motor oil. It’s an early 80’s Cadillac with the 4.1L engine that has a bottom end knock at idle when warm.
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Old 07-12-2006, 11:56 AM
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I'd try a nice 20w50 from Walmart. If its a beater you have nothing to lose.
Yep, treating the symptom and not the disease is the way to go in beaterville.
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:45 PM
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he said up front it is a beater... already.

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