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Old 08-11-2006, 03:24 AM
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Can you elaborate on this? The band around the lock assembly is sandwiched between two sections of the dash frame, and the bolts running through it are welded onto one of the sections, so I don't see how you could remove it short of cutting it out. Surely I'm missing something here?

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N/m on the above. I got it out with a die grinder. I'd initially given up on that approach because I couldn't find a bit small enough, but finally located something that worked. Hopefully on Monday I'll be able to start reassembling with the new pieces. I failed to order a cylinder housing, so I need to figure out how to remove the old one or order another now.
Thanks to all for the help!

it isn't likely that you can remove it without dmaging it, it is best to get another one, new or used.

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Old 08-11-2006, 04:28 AM
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The part I was talking about is just held on there with a nut and bolt, it's sort of like what clamps the seat tube to a bicycle on the frame side, just a simple clamp. One the bolt is remove you can just unbend it to remove it.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:26 AM
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The part I was talking about is just held on there with a nut and bolt, it's sort of like what clamps the seat tube to a bicycle on the frame side, just a simple clamp. One the bolt is remove you can just unbend it to remove it.
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Hmm... I'll have to grab a camera for this, but the band I assumed you were referring to is a metal bracket that runs from the dash frame down, below the wheel lock and back up. On each end, it's bolted between two segments of frame. I'm guessing the one you're referring to is part 15 in this link?
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Here's a picture of the piece I was referring to being in the way - look just to the left of the key cylinder.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:01 PM
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Yes, #15. The goldish/cad plated bracket, see if you can find fasteners on that or not. This stuff all tends to get in the way which is why I recommend pulling the whole upper jacket tube (steering column) out, you can pivot the column down and around and slip the whole dang thing out.
Once the clamp (#15) is removed (just bend it open until you can pull it off, you can do it by hand) you'll see the small retaining "nub", then you decide if you want to try grinding that out of there with the column installed. heh heh.
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Old 08-12-2006, 01:21 AM
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#15 and the part in the picture are completely different, though. On my '87, there was nothing like 15. The piece in the picture is bolted in three places between sections of the dash frame using bolts which are welded in place - definitely not removable. I may be misunderstanding how the column is removed from the steering shaft, but the way I was seeing it last night, the gold colored piece precludes doing so with the steering lock in place.

In any case, the lock is out now by grinding, but I am curious about alternative ways to do this procedure. If I can borrow a camera, I'll try to take some pictures and write up the simplest procedure for my vehicle for others down the road.
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Old 08-12-2006, 08:00 PM
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Once the upper jacket is detached (not attached to anything incl. the steering gear box), the upper jacket will rotate (if viewed from the drivers seat it would roll counter clockwise) and come out just fine. The big problem with grinding it without removing the jacket tube is the AC box is in the way when you slide the lock out.
The goldish bracket, I think as you mention there is a welded bolt or two, but there is still just a nut on the other side of the bolt which unscrews so the bracket will come off OK.
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Old 08-13-2006, 07:30 PM
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Once the upper jacket is detached (not attached to anything incl. the steering gear box), the upper jacket will rotate (if viewed from the drivers seat it would roll counter clockwise) and come out just fine. The big problem with grinding it without removing the jacket tube is the AC box is in the way when you slide the lock out.
The goldish bracket, I think as you mention there is a welded bolt or two, but there is still just a nut on the other side of the bolt which unscrews so the bracket will come off OK.
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Re the AC, once the lock nub was ground down, I just pulled the column as far to the left as I could and the steering lock cleared the AC components to slide out.

The goldish bracket has welded bolts on all three points of attachment, and the nut is on the outside of the section of dash that bolt around the bracket, so the order is welded bolt -> left dash frame segment -> bracket -> right dash frame segment -> nut. Removing only the nut still leaves the welded nut securing the bracket between the dash pieces and totally unremovable.
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If your lock is like mine, and make sure it is, then this is what you need:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/200554-1987-300e-key-stuck-ignition-post1640662.html#post1640662

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