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igor 08-29-2006 08:48 PM

who knows something about 1984 Euro SL 280 ?
 
Hello everyone,
I've have posted a question about VIN location on above car,but still can't find it.Please let me know where are possible locations of stamped vin .,there supposed to be few of them I was told.I intend to ship this beauty to Europe and they go only by stamped vin,otherwise won't register.
Thank you,please let me know.

sixto 08-29-2006 10:52 PM

There should be a tag on the upper radiator support and a tag in the driver door jamb. US cars have a VIN but this is obviously not a US car.

Older MBs have the body/chassis number stamped on the frame rail behind the right headlight. I think that practice ended before the R107.

You might contact the folks at www.oursl.com. They are familiar with the US and Euro R107s and might know where else to find the VIN in your car.

If you have the VIN in a US title document, have a body shop punch the VIN with professional looking punchmanship on a frame rail. That's about as official looking as I can figure.

Not to make light of your situation, it seems there's a likelihood that you'll ship the car to Europe, not be able to register it, then sell it freight prepaid to the US. That's the stuff craigslist scams are made of. Who'd think it could be legitimate :)

Sixto
93 300SD

igor 08-30-2006 12:30 PM

vin on 280SL
 
Thank you for the information.
Punching the vin would not be a good idea-they will suspect something.Better to find where the original vin is.Its gotta be somewhere!!!Its not behind the lamp and not stamped on firewall for sure,I have checked many times unlees its below behind the engine.On radiator support its also missing.Still hope that someone knows.
Thanks.

450slcguy 08-30-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igor (Post 1262115)
Thank you for the information.
Punching the vin would not be a good idea-they will suspect something.Better to find where the original vin is.Its gotta be somewhere!!!Its not behind the lamp and not stamped on firewall for sure,I have checked many times unlees its below behind the engine.On radiator support its also missing.Still hope that someone knows.
Thanks.

Almost sounds like the car was stolen at one point and had the Vin #s removed. Vin #'s should be in clear sight on at least one of the stated locations. I've owned/inspected several Euro. Benz's over the years and they always had the Vin#s in the the same places as US models.

igor 08-30-2006 12:52 PM

Stolen?
 
So,what to do than?,I just got a car from dealer in Virginia,still have their original title and paperwork.Already registered it on my name.

450slcguy 08-30-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igor (Post 1262142)
So,what to do than?,I just got a car from dealer in Virginia,still have their original title and paperwork.Already registered it on my name.


Go back to the dealer you bought the car from. If he's a licensed shop and the car is illegiate, he's liable. I've always made it a point to match title to chasis vin#. Twice they didn't match and ran like hell. You Gotta be carefull when dealing with used Mecedes, the scammers/crooks are out there in hordes.

riethoven 08-30-2006 01:05 PM

That is USDOT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 1262127)
Almost sounds like the car was stolen at one point and had the Vin #s removed. Vin #'s should be in clear sight on at least one of the stated locations. I've owned/inspected several Euro. Benz's over the years and they always had the Vin#s in the the same places as US models.

Cars in Europe do not have the VIN on the windshield pillar. That is a US only thing. All gray market cars had the tag retrofitted to the windshield pillar. This went along with welding in door beams, DOT approved lights and bumpers etc. etc.

riethoven 08-30-2006 01:07 PM

This happened to me!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 450slcguy (Post 1262150)
Go back to the dealer you bought the car from. If he's a licensed shop and the car is illegiate, he's liable. I've always made it a point to match title to chasis vin#. Twice they didn't match and ran like hell. You Gotta be carefull when dealing with used Mecedes, the scammers/crooks are out there in hordes.

I bought the car and the VIN on the title was off because of a typo from the day it was first registered 21 years ago. No one ever caught it until I saw it. The New York State DMV said it was no big deal because it was an obvious typo, so they just changed the VIN on the title application.

sixto 08-30-2006 02:46 PM

MB must have put the VIN in some non-removable part of the car. I still don't understand why US manufacturers put VIN specific tags in the driver door rather than the driver door jamb.

The W140 has the VIN stamped into the frame member just under the front passenger seat. There's a flap in the carpet to expose the VIN. I don't recall seeing this in other MBs but you might check there.

If the folks at www.oursl.com can't help you, see if your police department has a car theft or CSI unit with veterans who know where to look for a VIN in an R107.

Have you tried the Vintage forum? MBCA? Hemmings Motor News for an expert appraiser? MB restoration shop?

Sixto
93 300SD


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