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Ocean View 10-24-2006 03:52 PM

W210, M104 engine won't start.
 
Just my luck today,
Got dressed to go to the office and get in my car, turn on the ignition and no start. Car gets all lights but the starter is not turning.
Changed back into my shorts and T and got my tools out.
I took the battery out and down to a battery shop to get a new one and they tested it and it was fine.
So now I am wondering what it could be.
Starter?
Any suggestions would be great.

TMAllison 10-24-2006 04:02 PM

Have you tried starting in N rather than D? Possible worn shifter bushing or shift position sensor.

Ocean View 10-24-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMAllison (Post 1312118)
Have you tried starting in N rather than D? Possible worn shifter bushing or shift position sensor.

Can it be that simple?
If it does start, then does that indicate something is going out?
Should I replace anything?

I will try that later when I get home.
Thanks

TMAllison 10-24-2006 04:18 PM

Is possible for the shifter to be in P but for the sensor to sense it is gear.

Should have said try starting in N rather than P previously (going too fast).

Minnet 10-24-2006 07:53 PM

Yes, it can be that simple and most likely is.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocean View (Post 1312121)
Can it be that simple?
If it does start, then does that indicate something is going out?
Should I replace anything?

I will try that later when I get home.
Thanks


Ocean View 10-24-2006 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnet (Post 1312298)
Yes, it can be that simple and most likely is.

Well, I just got home and tried it.
Good news and bad news.
The car does start in N but it won't start in P
I drove around the block and when I parked and shut her down and started again in P, nothing.

SO what does this symptom mean?
What is the problem and what needs to be replaced.
I hope it's not too expensive and hopefully something that I can do myself.
Also, is it safe to drive it in this condition?

Please let me know.

Thanks

TMAllison 10-24-2006 10:15 PM

It means that your shifter bushing is worn allowing the trans to be in R when the selector appears to be in P, or that the sensor itself is dead.

R & R the bushing on the linkage frist, then sensor.

Click "buy parts" above to find the bushing.

Ocean View 10-24-2006 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMAllison (Post 1312414)
It means that your shifter bushing is worn allowing the trans to be in R when the selector appears to be in P, or that the sensor itself is dead.

R & R the bushing on the linkage frist, then sensor.

Click "buy parts" above to find the bushing.

I just had them replaced about 2 months ago because it was squeeking.
Is there another set of bushings there?

Thanks for the info Terry.

TMAllison 10-24-2006 10:31 PM

It is part number 27 on the diagram. There is only one.

If just repalced recently it could still be a linkage adjustment problem or the sensor itself located in the shifter console.

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=210225&M=606%2E962&GA=722%2E608&CT=GA&cat=23V&SID=27&SGR=095&SGN=09

TMAllison 10-24-2006 10:47 PM

104 is the gear selector sensor.

http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=210225&M=606%2E962&GA=722%2E608&CT=F&cat=45Q&SID=26&SGR=100&SGN=02

gplawson 10-24-2006 11:49 PM

It sounds like the sensor. I had the same problem. IIRC the repair was less than $100. Mine would start occassionally in P but always in N. If I pushed the gear shift forward enough it would start in P but I also noticed that having the parking brake set and letting or not letting the car role had an impact.

Greg

Ocean View 10-25-2006 02:12 PM

Thanks for the help guys,
Will replace it this weekend when I have some time.


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